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30 Jul 2012, 9:26 pm

There is no law forbidding what he did.

Personally, I am a royalist. I actually regret that the U.S. left the British Commonwealth. I wish that the country had taken the same path as Canada.


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30 Jul 2012, 9:51 pm

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Pretty much just what I asked, I don't understand why people still think that.


It was claimed some years ago that he had attended a "Madrassah" in Indonesia (this has been debunked, but since when does that matter?).

Also, he has been rumored to have admitted to being a secret Muslim to various people on various occasions,



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30 Jul 2012, 10:38 pm

I think the better question is "Why is the guy's religion even relevant at all?"

Unless you're trying to say that being a Muslim means he can't do his job, it's a pointless question and one that serves only to promote anti-Islamic and/or racist sentiments.



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30 Jul 2012, 11:00 pm

Shau wrote:
I think the better question is "Why is the guy's religion even relevant at all?"

Unless you're trying to say that being a Muslim means he can't do his job, it's a pointless question and one that serves only to promote anti-Islamic and/or racist sentiments.


They generally imply that it would give him divided loyalties, if not make him some sort of enemy agent outright.



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30 Jul 2012, 11:15 pm

It's the Southern Strategy, updated for a new decade and a new president. And it's proof that propaganda works.



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31 Jul 2012, 11:29 pm

Delphiki wrote:
Pretty much just what I asked, I don't understand why people still think that.


For some reason a lot of people like to cling to sentiments based on misconceptions, rather than truth. From a neurological stand point, it might be because those sentiments were their initial sentiments, and reflected a concept they found threatening, thus the misconception became truth in the more primitive part of the brain. Even intelligent individuals can have a difficult time ridding themselves of sentiments based on threatening concepts they know or not true.

For example, Mel Gibson's famous anti-semetic rant might be a manifestation of this phenomena. Mel Gibson's father was an out spoken anti-semite and Mel was likely exposed to negative perceptions of jews and the threat they were said to represent from a young age. Over the course of his career, he no doubt worked with and befriended many jews who did not meet the stereotypes he was taught were true, and likely eventually consciously acknowledged those stereotypes were not true....but yet somewhere embedded in his brain, he really just can't shake the feeling that jews (though none he knows) are bad. So when he gets drunk, he rants about these imaginary jews, as they have become a focal point for his frustrations and aggressions.

Some of these individuals who believe that Obama is a muslim likely actually like to believe this. I suppose because it makes them feel justified. But still I am left wondering what is the evolutionary advantage of harboring such beliefs? Is it an advantage at all or is it just a side effect? A vestige of more primitive neurology?

Additionally, there are situations where you present people with truth, or highlight a rather obvious flaw in their reasoning, and this somehow becomes irrelevant. The situation is no longer a matter of right or wrong but dominance, and they assert their dominance by refusing to listen to reason, and at this point the logical individual might be subject to a type of bullying, especially if they are out numbered. In these situations, one has to ask, was the truth ever relevant?



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01 Aug 2012, 9:40 am

His middle name is Hussein. And he bowed at a 45 degree angle to the King of Saudi Arabia.

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01 Aug 2012, 10:48 am

Raptor wrote:
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Call me clairvoyant but I have a feeling you won't agree.


I have no problem with showing respect to royalty.


For anyone representing the United States it should be left at a sincere and firm handshake with the associated pleasantries befitting the occasion, nothing more.
I'm done with is because there isn't much more for me to add.


that superiority attitude is why most people dont like americans. were not so high and mighty as most of us think.



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01 Aug 2012, 1:41 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
Pretty much just what I asked, I don't understand why people still think that.

Because they are stupid and/or ignorant.

Next question.
What he said. Its linked to racism and xenophobia. Fox News and various other conservative media outlets exploit it on an almost daily basis.