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02 Sep 2012, 10:39 am

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At least the most robust best is a value judgement.
I personally like living in robust and stable nations but there is no accounting for the taste of some.


The last one still standing is The Winner.

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Standing is for losers. Sitting is where it's at. A really comfy swivel chair.


You miss the point. The ones not still standing are dead.

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02 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm

It was Satan. He also invented mornings and hangovers.



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03 Sep 2012, 9:35 am

I liked Charles Krauthammer's article about Otto Bismark and his creating of Social Security in Germany, along with why Social Security in America needs an upgrade due to the good problem of Americans living longer.

"The Great Social Security Debate - Of course it’s a Ponzi scheme"

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... rauthammer

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...Demography is destiny. Which leads directly to Proposition 4: This is one Ponzi scheme that can be saved by adapting to the new demographics.

Three easy steps: Change the cost-of-living measure, means test for richer recipients, and, most important, raise the retirement age. The current retirement age is an absurd anachronism. Bismarck arbitrarily chose 70 when he created social insurance in 1889. Clever guy: Life expectancy at the time was under 50.

When Franklin Roosevelt created Social Security, choosing 65 as the eligibility age, life expectancy was 62. Today it is almost 80. FDR wanted to prevent the aged few from suffering destitution in their last remaining years. Social Security was not meant to provide two decades of greens fees for baby boomers.

Of course it’s a Ponzi scheme. So what? It’s also the most vital, humane, and fixable of all social programs. The question for the candidates is: Forget Ponzi — are you going to fix Social Security?



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03 Sep 2012, 3:56 pm

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Why, exactly, is it that a mixed economy state is better than a pure capitalist state? ?


What economies have survived war, upset, natural disaster, famine and flood the best. It turns out Mixed Economies are the survivor, hence the best so far.

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There was a reason why I referred to economists like Barro and Sala-I-Martin... I don't accept sweeping generalizations at face value...

Care to be more specific?

If you wiki GDP per Capita and remove "fake" wealth like tax havens and oil resources, one country seems to stand at the top all of the time...

Comment?

Oh, and Norway surviving a flood is not exactly a convincing argument to me :-). Rising oceans is one thing... but an average of 500 metres above sea level makes a difference as well...



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06 Sep 2012, 12:07 pm

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Why, exactly, is it that a mixed economy state is better than a pure capitalist state? ?


What economies have survived war, upset, natural disaster, famine and flood the best. It turns out Mixed Economies are the survivor, hence the best so far.

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There was a reason why I referred to economists like Barro and Sala-I-Martin... I don't accept sweeping generalizations at face value...

Care to be more specific?

If you wiki GDP per Capita and remove "fake" wealth like tax havens and oil resources, one country seems to stand at the top all of the time...

Comment?

Oh, and Norway surviving a flood is not exactly a convincing argument to me :-). Rising oceans is one thing... but an average of 500 metres above sea level makes a difference as well...


The majority of first line industrialized countries operate under mixed economies, regulated economies with a significant amount of private ownership of land and the means of production. Even so called socialist economies in Europe are really mixed economies.

The third world is a different matter. They are a poor and wretched lot. Dwellers in the mud, one might say.

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06 Sep 2012, 6:00 pm

Jojoba wrote:
I liked Charles Krauthammer's article about Otto Bismark and his creating of Social Security in Germany, along with why Social Security in America needs an upgrade due to the good problem of Americans living longer.

"The Great Social Security Debate - Of course it’s a Ponzi scheme"

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... rauthammer

excerpt:

Quote:
...Demography is destiny. Which leads directly to Proposition 4: This is one Ponzi scheme that can be saved by adapting to the new demographics.

Three easy steps: Change the cost-of-living measure, means test for richer recipients, and, most important, raise the retirement age. The current retirement age is an absurd anachronism. Bismarck arbitrarily chose 70 when he created social insurance in 1889. Clever guy: Life expectancy at the time was under 50.

When Franklin Roosevelt created Social Security, choosing 65 as the eligibility age, life expectancy was 62. Today it is almost 80. FDR wanted to prevent the aged few from suffering destitution in their last remaining years. Social Security was not meant to provide two decades of greens fees for baby boomers.

Of course it’s a Ponzi scheme. So what? It’s also the most vital, humane, and fixable of all social programs. The question for the candidates is: Forget Ponzi — are you going to fix Social Security?


And Charles Krauthammer is a flaming f*%kstick.

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06 Sep 2012, 6:11 pm

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I heard it originated in Sweden in the 1950s or 60s.


As I have pointed out it started in Prussia, nearly a century earlier. You heard wrong.

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Yes, it was truly Prussia's great, overlooked gift to the world. Even John Kennedy, while talking about the European welfare state, spoke of it in England and France, but making no mention of Prussia and Germany.
Despite being a conservative, Bismark - as you had mentioned earlier - understood that in order to have loyal, peaceable citizens, the government had to provide care. That's something today's conservatives fail to grasp in this country.

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07 Sep 2012, 8:05 am

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And Charles Krauthammer is a flaming f*%kstick.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He is a very smart flaming f*%kstick.

Pinko Stinko Commie Loving Left Wing Liberals do not have an exclusive patent on intelligence.

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07 Sep 2012, 2:13 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

And Charles Krauthammer is a flaming f*%kstick.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He is a very smart flaming f*%kstick.

Pinko Stinko Commie Loving Left Wing Liberals do not have an exclusive patent on intelligence.

ruveyn


I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm

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I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Krauthammer writes papers for scholarly journals. What does that motor mouth Joe Biden do?

See:

^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "Secondary mania: manic syndromes associated with antecedent physical illness or drugs", Archives of General Psychiatry 1978; 35:1333–1339.
^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "The Epidemiology of Mania", in Manic Illness, edited by B. Shopsin, Raven Press, New York, 1979.
^ Goodwin, Frederick K., and Kay R. Jamison. Manic-Depressive Illness. Oxford: Oxford UP, 2007; second edition.


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08 Sep 2012, 1:12 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Krauthammer writes papers for scholarly journals. What does that motor mouth Joe Biden do?

See:

^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "Secondary mania: manic syndromes associated with antecedent physical illness or drugs", Archives of General Psychiatry 1978; 35:1333–1339.
^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "The Epidemiology of Mania", in Manic Illness, edited by B. Shopsin, Raven Press, New York, 1979.
^ Goodwin, Frederick K., and Kay R. Jamison. Manic-Depressive Illness. Oxford: Oxford UP, 2007; second edition.


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So, he can be brilliant regarding medical and psychological journalism, but still can be a partisan hack.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Sep 2012, 1:35 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Krauthammer writes papers for scholarly journals. What does that motor mouth Joe Biden do?

See:

^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "Secondary mania: manic syndromes associated with antecedent physical illness or drugs", Archives of General Psychiatry 1978; 35:1333–1339.
^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "The Epidemiology of Mania", in Manic Illness, edited by B. Shopsin, Raven Press, New York, 1979.
^ Goodwin, Frederick K., and Kay R. Jamison. Manic-Depressive Illness. Oxford: Oxford UP, 2007; second edition.


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Looks like used to get published in Journals would be a better description the newest one that you listed that he is a co-author on is 1979. So maybe the hammer of the Germans used to be smart?


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08 Sep 2012, 1:36 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Krauthammer writes papers for scholarly journals. What does that motor mouth Joe Biden do?

See:

^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "Secondary mania: manic syndromes associated with antecedent physical illness or drugs", Archives of General Psychiatry 1978; 35:1333–1339.
^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "The Epidemiology of Mania", in Manic Illness, edited by B. Shopsin, Raven Press, New York, 1979.
^ Goodwin, Frederick K., and Kay R. Jamison. Manic-Depressive Illness. Oxford: Oxford UP, 2007; second edition.


ruveyn


So, he can be brilliant regarding medical and psychological journalism, but still can be a partisan hack.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


So can you are I.; So what? What does it have to do with intelligence?

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08 Sep 2012, 2:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Krauthammer writes papers for scholarly journals. What does that motor mouth Joe Biden do?

See:

^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "Secondary mania: manic syndromes associated with antecedent physical illness or drugs", Archives of General Psychiatry 1978; 35:1333–1339.
^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "The Epidemiology of Mania", in Manic Illness, edited by B. Shopsin, Raven Press, New York, 1979.
^ Goodwin, Frederick K., and Kay R. Jamison. Manic-Depressive Illness. Oxford: Oxford UP, 2007; second edition.


ruveyn


So, he can be brilliant regarding medical and psychological journalism, but still can be a partisan hack.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


So can you are I.; So what? What does it have to do with intelligence?

ruveyn


Probably nothing to do with intelligence. But he still comes off sounding like a partisan hack when he speaks on politics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Sep 2012, 2:29 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

I heard a clip of Krauthammer on the Daily Show, claiming how Bill Clinton was speaking so long at the Democratic convention so as to get revenge against Obama, who had to wait for an extended time in the wings.
Consider - - according to him, Clinton was saying good things about Obama to hurt him.
Krauthammer didn't sound too intellectually stellar in that regard.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Krauthammer writes papers for scholarly journals. What does that motor mouth Joe Biden do?

See:

^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "Secondary mania: manic syndromes associated with antecedent physical illness or drugs", Archives of General Psychiatry 1978; 35:1333–1339.
^ C. Krauthammer and G. L. Klerman. "The Epidemiology of Mania", in Manic Illness, edited by B. Shopsin, Raven Press, New York, 1979.
^ Goodwin, Frederick K., and Kay R. Jamison. Manic-Depressive Illness. Oxford: Oxford UP, 2007; second edition.


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Looks like used to get published in Journals would be a better description the newest one that you listed that he is a co-author on is 1979. So maybe the hammer of the Germans used to be smart?


That would be cabbage hammer, actually. He probably had an ancestor who smashed cabbage. Perhaps in the making of sauerkraut?

-Bill, otherwise know as Kraichgauer