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Someone's telling lies again, aren't they? Park51 (or, rather, "Cordoba House" as was - quite significant, that, as it refers to the Islamic Caliphate of Cordoba in the Middle Ages in the southern Iberian peninsula - i.e. the conquering of part of the West) is across the road from Ground Zero. See here:



It's right on top of the Ground Zero site!

Why couldn't they have built it elsewhere in Manhattan, like the Upper West Side, Harlem, the east side or wherever else? I'm sure there are many, many sites within the city other than that one. The fact that they chose that one specifically strikes many people as triumphalism and gloating. If Jewish or other extremist religious terrorists (that don't constitute a majority religion in the country) had committed a similar atrocity, they would accept that siting a centre so close to that terrorist atrocity is enormously inappropriate and that a better site can be found in order not to polarise and divide. Not the people responsible for "Park51" though, oh no. The extreme sense of entitlement from elements of Islam is quite astonishing. They should have had the sense to build it somewhere else - even elsewhere in Manhattan would have been better. Why that site specifically? Any decent person would have realised the obvious sensitivities by that site and, not wanting to cause offence, sited it quite a distance away.



So? Most victims of Islamist violence, intolerance and terrorism are fellow Muslims (many of whom are trying to oppose the terror and fear imposed by these scripture-sodden pedlars of hate and bigotry). Does that not make Islamic terrorists Islamic terrorists?



Yes it is, and you know it is. I'm sure if this was a Muslim country (quite a few of whom don't allow "religious freedom" to anyone other than Muslims, by the way - it's Islam or death in Saudi Arabia and other countries) and a terrorist attack by Christians on the local population, no Christian site would be allowed anywhere near the site of such terrorism. In fact, I strongly suspect that there would be a wide-scale burning of churches and the mass murder of Christians.

You're a typical ansar and an embarrassment to yourself, frankly. That said, bigoted ideologies have always had their sympathisers and excusers - Nazism, Communism and now Islamism.

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Muslim activists were sticking it to the rest of us.

I find Muslims in New Jersey (where I live) offensive enough.

I know a great place for them to build their center --- Mecha.

ruveyn

That's the Mecca that the filthy kuffar isn't allowed to enter, yes?

Bad spelling. Yes. No Jews allowed there.

ruveyn

I'm aware what Cordoba refers to, my ancestors fought at Tours. and no, it's not "right on top of the ground zero site", which I visited both before the attack and after the attack when I lived in Manhattan, it's "right on top" of an abandoned Burlington Coat Factory, and farther away from the site than an actual mosque, which predates the WTC to begin with.

you do realize that when Christians had mass in Tahrir square during the Egyptian revolution, Muslims guarded them so they could pray in peace, right?

I had ancestors buried in New York City before 1900. I had ancestors in the US before 1700. my uncle was flying from Dulles to LA that morning and is only alive today because of dumb luck. I'm also the gay son of religious fundamentalists and have absolutely no illusions about religious extremism. don't tell me I'm an "apologist".

I realize it must be really scary to have brown people trying to go about their lives in your general vicinity, but you need to get the hell over it.

for pure amusement's sake I'd really love to see a foreigner come to Manhattan and tell someone who lives there that they're an unamerican terrorist sympathizer.

Do you know, I had a vast response to you but Firefox has lost it all. I'm livid.

I've come to the habit of copying and pasting huge posts to notepad as I realize they've gotten Emerson level epic and broken the 1500 word mark. Its been a life saver more times than I can count.

If you can find me a free Windows-based text editor that does BBCode, you can have a big sloppy kiss from a fat, greasy, unshaven man that smells of that famous Arabic word... alcohol.

Or you can simply go without the kiss if you prefer. I would be very grateful.

It is the prevailing attitude here. The vast majority of the Muslims in this country are well integrated, and only distinguishable from non-Muslims when they don't show up to lunch during Ramadan or miss a day of school/work for Eid twice a year. HTH.

Does it really bother you that there is some part of this planet thousands of miles from you with restrictions on who can and who cannot enter?

If you really wanted to become eligible to visit Mecca, it would be easy enough for you to convert to Islam. You could even become an atheist again a week later.

It's far easier to convert to Islam than it is to Judaism.

You sound like a fine advert for Western freedom. The jihadis must be trembling.

PS, why not just use Microsoft Word?

Not to turn down your affection, I'm just sitting smug with notepad right now. Habits are everything to me.

Islamophobes don't seem to understand human being, and everything it means to be a human being. I.E philosophical, psychological, deep thoughts, empathy, sociological mechanisms, humanistic understanding and so on. That is a bit depressing. I can't discuss this subject in the form of fact bonanzas. Not many can. I'd love some answers on my above accusation, though.

Actual Islomophobes (rather than what I think CAIR would claim is Islomophobia) are muddy-minded people working with muddy heuristics. When people lack intelligence and find harmful aspects of something but can't address deeper nuance they have to paint the whole think black.

And that's the thing. A lot of people have taken all criticism and legitimate comment on Islam, and Muslim immigrants, no matter how sensible and justified, to be "Islamophobia" (even if it's the type often made by other Muslims). I try my best not to paint things black - indeed, I know that there are many rounded, well-meaning Muslim people out there but unfortunately their voices are silent and indistinct. I praise organisations like the British Muslims for Secular Democracy and others and I only hope that they were much stronger.

Yeah, they're lemmings.

People who say all Muslims are terrorists are idiots, people who say that more Christians at present are that way - they're trying to fortify wishful thinking by accosting anyone who doesn't share their illusions. To be fair Islam is currently at the place that Christianity was under Torquemada, and I have a feeling they'll be resolving this one from within the same way we did however radicalized youth, as much as radicalized leftists, who want to blow things up need to be dealt with and put away by the Feds.