Has anyone ever comtemplated suicide for this reason?

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So much for unconditional love.

I didn't necessarily mean physically.

Still not unconditional. "Unconditional" literally means "with no conditions" it means you'd have to love her regardless of her looks, personality or any other characteristic and also place no demands what so ever on her. Hence why I said it was irrational and somewhat selfish.

But there's still a condition to it. I mean, I'm assuming a certain decency on your part, that you'll be loving this woman back.

Having read more of your thoughts here, I don't think you're in a position to take it as a personal affront that the world is as you see it. I don't think it's fair to expect of others what you yourself cannot - really, will not - do.

I think people do care about larger things - I really don't speak to many people irl, but those I am able to get into conversations with do care. I think they feel an impotent confusion and anger, though.

And what's with that entitlement thing that seems to infect a lot of young men here?

Donnie boy, you are not alone. I, myself, have had some subpar experiences with human beings in my eighteen years of existence, but at the same time, the opposite is true.

Have there been any movies about unconditional love? My concept of love comes mainly from movies, so I'd be interested to hear what they have to say.

Ironically words like "irrational" tend to be nothing more than glittering generalities. I think we vastly overestimate how rational we really are since we're just good at manifesting our primal tendencies under the thin veneer of being "civilized".

No, not really. I mean, I have come to similar conclusions about humanity but it's never made me want to kill myself. I don't think being irrational and selfish are unforgivably bad traits. Also, of course unconditional love exists. Oxytocin, man.

Quite. It both disturbs and annoys me to see people dismissed as 'irrational', or (as I recall you starting a thread on) people considering themselves more 'logical'. All thinking is a mixture of feeling and reason.

If you're going through hell, keep going.—Winston Churchill

I'd phrase it a little differently.

My feeling was that people hated making sense, hated practicality, and even treated those who wanted to make the most sense as weak, inferior, etc. because we create unneeded complexity for the sake of re-creating social pecking order and keeping those who get tired too fast of that in a second class citizen level where they either by society's standards don't have a right to procreate or simply will never have a right to be themselves without paying the price.

My sense from that point was that this flat out wasn't my kind of world, having a disability just spelled it out in brass tacks that the negative outweighed the positive and, rather dispassionately, it meant that there was no reason for going concern. At other times I'd have a much more heated reaction where I fantasized about Japanese honor suicide for my weakness - not because I'm some kind of psychopath, I just had that many people pounding me from that angle relentlessly to where I felt like I'd either die that way or being murdered by someone who was literally that disgusted by seeing someone as 'weak' as myself breathing.

On the contrary, people who love and accept themselves become more attractive to others. When I say loving oneself I mean understanding and accepting oneself, it's not about thinking you're perfect or fluffy new age crap. But it's also not something a lot of people get interested in until they become more introspective with middle age. Romantic love has a funny way of happening when you're already somewhat happy, it's not a cure for unhappiness. It's not anyone else's place in life to make you happy. That beautiful woman wants to be with someone who is whole and complete before she meets him, not someone who needs her to complete him.

Yes.

The first bit absolutely true every, single being ever born was a selfish, irrational being.

But.

The second bit is false. I am a broke unemployed depressed cripple and I found unconditional true love so there is hope for you yet.