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Inuyasha
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23 Sep 2012, 7:41 pm

Tequila wrote:
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I am shocked! shocked! to see that Muslim Libyans cannot made a peaceful government that respects life and property. I am positively flamboozled!

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It would be good if they could.

And, TBH, credit where credit's due in the Arab world. Just a shame there is so little to credit.


Right now I think the Libyans are the most likely to create a peaceful government that respects life and property at the moment, since they are flat out rejecting the radicals.



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23 Sep 2012, 7:43 pm

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Right now I think the Libyans are the most likely to create a peaceful government that respects life and property at the moment, since they are flat out rejecting the radicals.


If they can get themselves sorted, and create a safe, humane (i.e. not a barbaric Islamic hellhole), relatively free society that welcomes tourists, I'll book a holiday there.



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23 Sep 2012, 7:44 pm

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Right now I think the Libyans are the most likely to create a peaceful government that respects life and property at the moment, since they are flat out rejecting the radicals.


I would not bet a large amount of money on that outcome. Before the current regime there was that sterling example of humanity, Kaddafi.

The Libyans have two flaws not in their favor. One, they are African and two they are Muslim. A bad combination.

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24 Sep 2012, 3:28 am

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While Obama's aid to Libya during their uprising can be strongly argued as unconstitutional due to his lack of congressional approval, on the whole it seems to have given us a very strong ally in the region. I felt terrible after the ambassador was killed, thinking that maybe the region as a whole was just to backwards for democracy and diplomacy, but the next day there was a picture in the paper of a woman holding a sign saying, 'Thugs and killers do not represent Benghazi nor Islam,' and in general the people of Benghazi in specific and Libya in general seem not only to agree with that sentiment but have been backing it up with actions. The people of Libya seem to want a peaceful, modern state, and good for them.


It still is unconstitutional, no where in the constitution does it authorize foreign aid of any sort.

I'm not sure what you mean by a powerful ally, the Libyan government basically has no authority outside of Tripoli. There may be some desire amongst their a portion of the populace to rid themselves of extremists but it's present there for a reason.

Potentially powerful, I should have said. In possession of large reserves of 'light sweet' petroleum. Well-educated by the standards of the region. Influential with the neighbors.