The Obama victory.

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sort of, he wasnt as liberal as people thought he was going to be but i wouldnt call him conservative.

everyone expected a radical socialist and what they got was a mid conservative democrat but he is still well left of reagan or goldwater

He's about as fiscally conservative as Republicans from 10-15 years ago.

lol calling the guy who has a 'kill list' including American citizens a social libertarian.

Obama threw gays a bone as part of his reelection campaign but is there any real sincerity to it? They can now serve openly in the military, they're free to kill brown people too! Yayyyyyyyyy!

Obama is a corporatist, the same as the GOP

this is why i always vote republican
because all politicians are corrupt because power is just to hard for anyone to handle,so if you reduce goverment involment in peoples lives then the less goverment can hurt us

So if Rick Santorum had been the Republican candidate, would you have voted for him?

what exactly is so wrong with santorum besides the fact that he is sort of a curebee.but his daughters condition is usualy fatal by 25 so do you blame him for wanting a cure

You want to reduce government involvement in people's lives, and you see no fault with a person who is against the right of women to use contraception?

Oh, and the risk of Edwards Syndrome (Trisonomy 18 ) increases with maternal age. His wife was 48 when she gave birth to Bella. Go figure.

Obama and his buddies offer us neo-fascist or proto-fascist State control of the society. This is NOT what the Founders of the Republic had in mind. In a sense Obama and his buddies are carrying out to the n-th degree the program outlined by Alexander Hamilton, the Statist from Hell.

Thomas Jefferson (despite being a slave owner) was closer to the spirit of the Founders than Hamilton. Unfortunately his vision has lost out and Hamilton's has won in the Darwinian struggle for survival.

ruveyn

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did you bother to read my previous post on party and sex/reproductive issues.

The libertarian paradise Singapore subsidizes healthcare by taxing the rich. They also have a mandatory "savings" account for healthcare. It seems what libertarians in the US want to go to doesn't exist in the modern world. It's the 19th century system. If you can't afford healthcare you die.

I'd think fiscally conservative would be about balancing the budget. That's not what Republicans are about. They are about trickle-down dogma. There is nothing "conservative" about it. It's radical.

"Simplifying the tax code" and "broadening the base" are euphemism for making the tax flatter, i.e. raising taxes on the middle class and poor while lowering them drastically on the very wealthy.

Well, I see Republicans in their current form as bad for the country, bad for our existence as a species, and bad for the planet.

They are anti-science, and if they succeed in further sabotaging the science education of our children in public schools then America will be much less competitive in the global market of ideas and innovation at a time when we need such abilities more than ever. Whether or not they realize what they are doing, Republicans and Tea Partiers are actively trying to repeal the Enlightenment and send us back to the Dark Ages.

Republicans give obscenely unfair advantages to the rich and history has shown that such policies do NOT result in job creation or the wealth trickling down. Republicans make it easier for the rich to exploit the poor and rape the planet to make a quick buck regardless of the immediate and long term social and environmental costs.

As I see it, in its current form the Republicans are the party of unbridled short-sighted greed, ignorance, and fear. That is why I nearly always will cast my vote to keep any Republicans from ANY office until or unless they stop being such greedy ignorant bastards.

Why? Because the believe in the private ownership and operations of the means of production? Because their hearts do not bleed for every moocher and bum who claims need as a justification for extorting money from their betters?

Is that why?

ruveyn

Hurry up and die already.

No. I gave my reasons in the paragraphs following the sentence you quoted. How do you answer the following description of Republican behavior the past thirty years I have been a voting adult?


We don't have to give up private ownership and operation of the means of production. I'm just asking that the super rich stop getting obscenely unfair advantages that have detrimental social and environmental effects. It would also be nice if the Republicans and Tea Partiers weren't so often in denial of demonstrable reality because it either conflicts with a wacko nutjob religious belief or if it would somehow interfere with their making a quick buck regardless of the consequences.



I could add that in addition to the G.O.P. trying to legislate reality, it also tries to legislate what is moral when not everyone agrees with their official party line. If you want to talk about government interfering with citizen's private lives, the G.O.P. is far and away much more intrusive than the Democrats. And the right-wing nutjob extreme religious fanatics have hijacked the G.O.P. and also seem to be quite prominent (maybe even more) in the Tea Party. Some openly want to make America a theocracy, something that goes totally against the Constitution and the expressed intentions of our Founding Fathers. So besides trying to rewrite science to include fairy tales, these clowns also try to rewrite history.

And proto-fascist in their own way. The Republican party has degenerated into a congery of short sighted would be oligarchs and plutocrats. What is most bothersome is that most of the money the well heeled Republicans hold is inherited money or managed money, not money derived from invention and innovation.

Which is not to say the left wingers are any better. The left lives to turn our society into a zero-sum casino in which they control who gets what. They are no better for us than the oligarchs of the right.

ruveyn