What can we do to make education better?
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25 Nov 2012, 12:02 am
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away.
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
25 Nov 2012, 12:10 am
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Yeah let's do that. While taking note that the country with the lowest level of happiness per capita is Japan. According to a documentary called Happy.
25 Nov 2012, 12:15 am
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away.
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
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25 Nov 2012, 12:44 am
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
25 Nov 2012, 12:53 am
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
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25 Nov 2012, 12:59 am
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
You care about the constitution now? Stop whining about the separation of church and state then and find me where in the constitution does it mention public education at all.
25 Nov 2012, 1:03 am
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
You care about the constitution now? Stop whining about the separation of church and state then and find me where in the constitution does it mention public education at all.
So the constitution is irrelevant to a government institution that you want religion in?
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25 Nov 2012, 1:06 am
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
You care about the constitution now? Stop whining about the separation of church and state then and find me where in the constitution does it mention public education at all.
So the constitution is irrelevant to a government institution that you want religion in?
Oh, and competition would bring down the cost of private schools. It was relatively cheap when I studied in a private school abroad.
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Jacoby
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25 Nov 2012, 1:17 am
Seabass wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
You care about the constitution now? Stop whining about the separation of church and state then and find me where in the constitution does it mention public education at all.
So the constitution is irrelevant to a government institution that you want religion in?
Oh, and competition would bring down the cost of private schools. It was relatively cheap when I studied in a private school abroad.
cheap? many people cant afford to pay for private schools
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25 Nov 2012, 1:18 am
Keniichi wrote:
Seabass wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
You care about the constitution now? Stop whining about the separation of church and state then and find me where in the constitution does it mention public education at all.
So the constitution is irrelevant to a government institution that you want religion in?
Oh, and competition would bring down the cost of private schools. It was relatively cheap when I studied in a private school abroad.
cheap? many people cant afford to pay for private schools
I said abroad. In another country, were private schools are the norm.
25 Nov 2012, 1:26 am
Seabass wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The constitution does not authorize that government institution so it's a moot point.
It is still a government institution and therefore subject to the constitution.
Lets hope that education one day ceases to be another failed government institution.
It is a failed government institution because of the unions keeping substandard educators employed.
If they were paid and screened better, the unions would be irrelevant.
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25 Nov 2012, 1:31 am
Seabass wrote:
Keniichi wrote:
Seabass wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
PM wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Spend more time and money on core curriculum instead of useless social BS.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Let teachers teach what they need to teach and not just teaching to past assessment tests.
Ding ding ding. Model the school system after Japan, school is for studying, not socializing. 12-5- 240 should suffice.
Get rid of the Teacher's union and get religion out of the classroom.
End this charter school BS, it seems that it may be the beginning of the end of free education.
Expanding on that, "Competition" has no place in the education system.
Give me one good reason why competition is bad, I'd like to hear it. The only people that fear competition are fat cat unionized teachers and you want to get rid of them so it's really a mystery to me. Parents should have more choices on where their children go to school and what they learn, the public one-size-fits-all schools that plagues our country have been a disaster. With competition comes accountability and those that cannot provide a suitable product will wither away
Also, there is no such thing as "free education", it's tax payer funded and generously so.
HA! "Competition" and giving parents choices is the main trick of "charter" schools to privatize education and get religion in the classroom. The unions just give the teachers permission to do a substandard job without fear of being fired. Public one size fits all education does not exist in today's education system in the form of poor schools being disenfranchised by not being offered the same subject matter as wealthier schools in which the parents have the ability to give more to their child's education. For that matter, the education system as a whole is notoriously underfunded with most discretionary spending going to the Defense Department.
Who cares about religion if they provide a quality education, only the bigoted would object to that. If a parent wants to give their child their child a catholic education then who's to say can't? Some suit in Washington who is lobbied by special interests/ideologues or is one themselves? It's a straight up stupid suggestion to think that religion is why public schools are failing. A parents primary objective is to prepare a child for an independent adult life, a good parent is not going to settle for a substandard education unless forced too as many are who cannot afford private school and only option are the prisons we call out public schools.
Harping about money doesn't really care any water either, America spends more on education than any other country on Earth. The poorest preforming school districts in the country a lot of time are the must funded. Simply throwing MORE money at schools would accomplish very little besides make the union fat cats happy.
And what's so bad about privatized education? Are you just clinging to some old ideological boogeyman? Public education could still exist if it could produce a quality product, it has no incentive to do so right now. You seem quite confused if you want to get rid of the teachers union but not understand the need for competition.
Religion in public schools is a direct violation of the Establishment Clause. If you want God (or any other deity for that matter) in the classroom, send your child to a private school. It seems to me that the poor schools and districts are always supplied with the worst teachers for blatantly obvious reasons. Leave the idea of competition in the free market, not in public education.
You care about the constitution now? Stop whining about the separation of church and state then and find me where in the constitution does it mention public education at all.
So the constitution is irrelevant to a government institution that you want religion in?
Oh, and competition would bring down the cost of private schools. It was relatively cheap when I studied in a private school abroad.
cheap? many people cant afford to pay for private schools
I said abroad. In another country, were private schools are the norm.
I stand corrected.
Anyways, if the economy and government got out of the schools, and left education up to the people who know things, maybe the US wouldnt be in such a huge mess?
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Keniichi
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