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17 Dec 2012, 12:31 pm

As long as conservatives turn a blind eye to the down and out, the oppressed, the different, liberals will always be there to take their side. Thank God.

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17 Dec 2012, 1:13 pm

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As long as conservatives turn a blind eye to the down and out, the oppressed, the different, liberals will always be there to take their side. Thank God.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yes. And they will take money from ALL both the willing and the unwilling.

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17 Dec 2012, 2:40 pm

Last time I checked, the US Left was seriously pointing fingers at some group of people known "The One Percent" on behalf of some other group of people known as "The 99 Percent".

Wouldn't one percent of a population be a minority ? :scratch:



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17 Dec 2012, 4:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As long as conservatives turn a blind eye to the down and out, the oppressed, the different, liberals will always be there to take their side. Thank God.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yes. And they will take money from ALL both the willing and the unwilling.

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Taxation is a necessary evil. And beside, when it's used to help those in need, you can consider it an investment.

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17 Dec 2012, 7:51 pm

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And, I'll be glad when Whites are no longer the Majority.


So what color are trolls, anyway?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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17 Dec 2012, 7:53 pm

Does the Left cater to minorities?
Yes, and not necessarily to the benefit of the minorities.....


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17 Dec 2012, 8:05 pm

It depends on which leftists you are talking about. The governing party in my home province is very leftist yet also nationalist/separatist and exclusionary- minorities are not welcomed here


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17 Dec 2012, 8:14 pm

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Taxation is a necessary evil. And beside, when it's used to help those in need, you can consider it an investment.

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I (and others) do not regard redistribution of income as a proper function of government. That is charity at gunpoint. The proper functions of government are police to deal with internal crime, armed forces to defend the nation from foreign aggression and law courts to settle torts and deal with criminal matters. The fact that we need police and an army is the evil that necessitates the collection of taxes. Taxing those who have to give money to those who have less is theft. It is charity by billy club and gun.

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17 Dec 2012, 8:19 pm

The bleeding hearts of the Left are constantly making excuses for the substandard performance (on the average) of Negroes.

Some black folks are very sharp, others not so much. The average IQ of blacks in the U.S. is less than 100. The Left loves to blame it on slavery and rich white folks.

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17 Dec 2012, 8:55 pm

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The bleeding hearts of the Left are constantly making excuses for the substandard performance (on the average) of Negroes.

Some black folks are very sharp, others not so much. The average IQ of blacks in the U.S. is less than 100. The Left loves to blame it on slavery and rich white folks.

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As a matter of fact, black Americans have had an incredible influence on the arts - in particular, music. Artistic intelligence defies measurement when compared to intelligence achievements in the sciences and math, but it's still intelligence.

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17 Dec 2012, 8:58 pm

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As a matter of fact, black Americans have had an incredible influence on the arts - in particular, music. Artistic intelligence defies measurement when compared to intelligence achievements in the sciences and math, but it's still intelligence.

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Bingo! You are making excuses for the low performance in the scientific and mathematical realm.

Right on cue and true to form. Ah, you Liberals are so predictable.

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17 Dec 2012, 9:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As a matter of fact, black Americans have had an incredible influence on the arts - in particular, music. Artistic intelligence defies measurement when compared to intelligence achievements in the sciences and math, but it's still intelligence.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Bingo! You are making excuses for the low performance in the scientific and mathematical realm.

Right on cue and true to form. Ah, you Liberals are so predictable.

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No, I'm saying blacks have a rich legacy for artistic achievement.

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17 Dec 2012, 9:21 pm

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The bleeding hearts of the Left are constantly making excuses for the substandard performance (on the average) of Negroes.

Some black folks are very sharp, others not so much. The average IQ of blacks in the U.S. is less than 100. The Left loves to blame it on slavery and rich white folks.

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I wouldn't believe that the brains of black people are, on average, any less capable than anyone else's until I see studies that include an equal balance of individuals from different backgrounds, professions, and levels of education for all races studied. Pen-and-paper tests will always be biased towards people with certain experiences, not to mention the highly likely possibility that exercising one's brain through education can improve thinking skills.

Have there been any such studies on a large scale?



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17 Dec 2012, 9:38 pm

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I realize that the Left has helped enact many laws and protections that have benefited minorities in America and have helped lift them up in society. However, and especially during this last election, it seems like they perpetuating this idea that minorities still need protection, and that they won't get it unless they vote for Obama. They even attack minorities that hold right wing views.

So I ask you guys, is the Left really catering that much to minorities, and if so, should they keep continuing to do it?


The american left side (democrats) has survived by trying to add in as many special interest groups as they can. Minorities being one of them. This even reflects on their candidates (and im not just talking obama, jfk being the first catholic in office and other attempted candidates like hilary). But those groups alone arent enough to completely dominate. They also need to have one more thing, a reason to unite. Otherwise all these groups will fall to a smaller party that more directly caters to their individual needs. This is where the right wing rich old homophobic biblehumping gun nut white guy stereotype comes in. It paints an image that everyone is against and that they are the only way to beat it. And to capture some of the younger voters throw in the whole fad of being popular and new agey. And that is the mix of what makes the democrats system of getting in office work.



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17 Dec 2012, 9:39 pm

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Last time I checked, the US Left was seriously pointing fingers at some group of people known "The One Percent" on behalf of some other group of people known as "The 99 Percent".

Wouldn't one percent of a population be a minority ? :scratch:


Its not a minority when its the enemy. And nothing causes enemies like money, especially with how skewed tax laws are.



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18 Dec 2012, 9:49 am

UnLoser wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
The bleeding hearts of the Left are constantly making excuses for the substandard performance (on the average) of Negroes.

Some black folks are very sharp, others not so much. The average IQ of blacks in the U.S. is less than 100. The Left loves to blame it on slavery and rich white folks.

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I wouldn't believe that the brains of black people are, on average, any less capable than anyone else's until I see studies that include an equal balance of individuals from different backgrounds, professions, and levels of education for all races studied. Pen-and-paper tests will always be biased towards people with certain experiences, not to mention the highly likely possibility that exercising one's brain through education can improve thinking skills.

Have there been any such studies on a large scale?


Pen and Paper tests are the best overt testing agents we have. How else do people exhibit abstract intelligence but through their verbal behavior (this includes doing physics and math). The lack of distinction could me either an inherent lack of ability or it could be the effects of culture and custom. How are we to pry those two apart? It is very hard to get a control group to eliminate one and corroborate the other.

So we go by what we see (and don't see), which, as you imply, might not be conclusive.

Since there are no legal and physical barriers to the accomplishment of darker folk and there have not been any in the U.S. for nearly 50 years, what shall we conclude (if anything). Let us assume that the Liberals achieve their dearest fantasy, prosperous white folk reduced to penury and darker folk given unearned gifts. If, even after all that, the darker folk do not come through, the Liberals will still blame the white people.

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