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01 Jan 2013, 6:17 pm

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I've worked in nursing homes where most of the nurses and aides are African. Interestingly, Ethiopians are lighter skinned than the others and are often called, behind their backs, white Africans.


You'd also find that with the Berber people as well as other peoples from North Africa, as they're very light-skinned, as well as white South Africans, Namibians, and a few other white populations scattered around the various African countries.



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01 Jan 2013, 6:20 pm

a little background finding on this mshoza..


October 31 2011:
http://www.iol.co.za/saturday-star/kwai ... -1.1168004


December 14 2011:
http://www.mio.co.za/article/mshoza-att ... 2011-12-14

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02 Jan 2013, 12:28 am

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There is a similar racism in India towards those who are darker skinned. As mentioned above maybe this goes back to attitudes that infiltrated into their society at the time of British rule?


I think it goes back much further than that - to when the Aryan tribes in north invaded Dravidian areas.



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02 Jan 2013, 12:52 am

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02 Jan 2013, 3:43 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
There is a similar racism in India towards those who are darker skinned. As mentioned above maybe this goes back to attitudes that infiltrated into their society at the time of British rule?


I think it goes back much further than that - to when the Aryan tribes in north invaded Dravidian areas.


That's correct, puddingmouse. I assume everyone has heard of the caste system? The Sanskrit word for caste is actually the same as the Sanskrit word for colour ('varna').



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02 Jan 2013, 4:16 pm

That reminded me of this SNL skit. I actually remember watching this when it came out.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QEIaATPis[/youtube]


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02 Jan 2013, 6:23 pm

Take a look at what passes for beauty in Indian mass media.

I seem to recall a Guardian article in which it was claimed that skin whitening creams outsell Coca-Cola in India.


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02 Jan 2013, 6:28 pm

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I seem to recall a Guardian article in which it was claimed that skin whitening creams outsell Coca-Cola in India.


You could say they're making the white choice? ;)

As far as it goes for me, I prefer my Indian ladies darker skinned.



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03 Jan 2013, 12:16 am

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03 Jan 2013, 1:32 am

Tequila wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
I seem to recall a Guardian article in which it was claimed that skin whitening creams outsell Coca-Cola in India.


You could say they're making the white choice? ;)

As far as it goes for me, I prefer my Indian ladies darker skinned.


Indians range from Persian-looking to looking like Australian Aborigines.

In India, the most desired complexion for a woman is 'wheatish':

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The 'least desired' is this:

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Do you mean somewhere in between the two? Most Pakistani people we see in the UK are wheatish or paler, tbh.



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05 Jan 2013, 1:07 am

Latin Americans are the same way. White skin is an indication of status there. Mestizos like to play up their "Spanish" ancestry, dye their hair, lighten their skin, etc.



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05 Jan 2013, 8:55 am

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Latin Americans are the same way. White skin is an indication of status there. Mestizos like to play up their "Spanish" ancestry, dye their hair, lighten their skin, etc.


Pure Iberians in Spain are of Celtic Origin. The darker Spaniard is the result of intermarriage between the Celtic types and the Muslim types who ancestors came from north Africa and Arabia. There was much frigging in the rigging between Celtic types from the north and darker skin type from al Andalus. Spain have a very heavy Islamic heritage both culturally and genetically.

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06 Jan 2013, 8:25 am

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Nah, I can verify and I hear it all the time. I was in an African film class back in college that covered a few requirement parameters, probably five out of 30 of us were white, and from being in a class with that mix we got to hear a lot of interesting things that we just wouldn't otherwise. One of the guys I used to talk to often was really scholastically sharp (most in that class were generally) and he mentioned having gone to Germany for a few semesters to find out that African blacks for the longest time wouldn't talk to him at all. Quite often African blacks have been known to use to term "Yankee -------" for what they presume to be American 'gangster' blacks, something of course for those who fought tooth and nail to get a European education and get out of Africa for it seems as backward as reprehensible.

I'm just waiting for the success of African blacks to be better known for being high-class brainiacs than American/UK/French gangstas pimpin' 4 4's, doves, and spinners. That would be an incredibly fortunate turn of events.


I had a teacher from Kenya my first semester, he had worked really hard to put himself through school, first in Kenya, then the UK, then the US and was teaching something like 12 classes at 4 different campuses when i took his class.. a load of the black kids in my class though, well, he's black too, so we can slack off and have attitudes.. and oh man were they in for a rude awakening.. he had NO tolerance at all for them.. and held them to much higher standards than the rest of the class..