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08 Feb 2013, 3:17 pm

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Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


god no.

the NT world is market orientated why not break with convention.


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08 Feb 2013, 3:23 pm

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MisterCosgrove wrote:

Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


A lot of ASD people wouldn't survive in that economy because they can't work.


depends what you mean by 'work'. If you mean the conventional archetype of banal box or shelf stacking and the asinine world of customer interaction, that is a problem.

I see the mainstay of the aspergia economy coming through the blue chip industries- programming, web development, IT and media technology.


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08 Feb 2013, 3:29 pm

thomas81 wrote:

depends what you mean by 'work'. If you mean the conventional archetype of banal box or shelf stacking and the asinine world of customer interaction, that is a problem.



There is nothing assiinine about working with a customer to find out what he needs and helping him get it.

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08 Feb 2013, 3:35 pm

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There is nothing assiinine about working with a customer to find out what he needs and helping him get it.



The customer service sector ret*ds people's independence. People should fry their own damn burgers or use the internet to find out information for themselves. Or better yet, replace the lot with robots and AI programs. Theres nothing the average bar steward or call centre agent can do that cant be replicated by circuitboards, pneumatics and programming algorithms.

then allow the people who would have otherwise languished in those roles the chance to pursue self embetterment as an alternative.


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08 Feb 2013, 5:32 pm

thomas81 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
MisterCosgrove wrote:

Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


A lot of ASD people wouldn't survive in that economy because they can't work.


depends what you mean by 'work'. If you mean the conventional archetype of banal box or shelf stacking and the asinine world of customer interaction, that is a problem.

I see the mainstay of the aspergia economy coming through the blue chip industries- programming, web development, IT and media technology.


I can't do any of those things. I'm an English teacher by profession.

Anyway, some of the autistic people I help to teach literally couldn't do a high level job. They could do a low level one if they had a nice environment to work in and supportive employers. I'm not being unfair on them; they have IQs in the 60s and 70s. I know IQ isn't a great measure but when it's that low, it does indicate some difficulties. Even if they have savant skills (which are rare), it's not necessarily something they could make a living from. They will still need help with their money and sometimes with self-care skills. A lot of autistic people have mental retardation*, it's just that a good proportion of people with ASDs have higher-than-average IQs, too.

Some of the mentally ret*d autistic people I know have better social skills than the ones with genius IQs - but they would be less suited to technical job than the high IQ ones.

I do agree that really basic work should be automated, though.

* I know the British term is learning disabilities/difficulties (the latter means it gets confused with dyslexia and dyscalculia), but that term is so confusing I used the international term, even though it has the 'r' word in it. The wiki page is called 'mental retardation', so I didn't mean to offend anyone.



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09 Feb 2013, 12:47 pm

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I can easily see an autistic-majority country becoming an NT-majority one in no time. And then it'll be just like everywhere else.


Or, it could somehow be turned the other way around, also if these aspies who were really good at skills needed for government office, they'd run for office positions and influence if they wanted to.


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09 Feb 2013, 1:20 pm

A nation of ASD...

Houses: Each would probably be of different architectural styles in each street or neighborhood that would suit that individual's/ family sensory overload needs, and resonate their interests so hopefully the neighborhood/ street feels united and has common ground! Of course the houses need to be suited for their environment.

Work space: might contain screens, dimmed lights, no echos, and a choice between working in a group or alone. There might be more but some ideas already were mentioned.

Restaurants: dimmed lighting, screens or dedicated rooms for those with noise sensory overloads. Each restaurants having their own theme of course and maybe T.V/ wi-fi or some source to enable conversations.

Sports: No idea, guessing more emphasis on individual sports than group oriented ones. National sport? I'm going with Starcraft, Chess, or Go! there are more choices though i just went with my three.

For lower functioning to be productive in this society... could do simple tasks like loading/ unloading shipment, public transportation driver? I don't really know the all the possibilities.

Now this is making me want to make a ASD empire in Galactic Civilizations 2 or Civilizations 4! Of course it would either be cultural victory or science! That could be neat I guess.



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09 Feb 2013, 2:14 pm

puddingmouse wrote:

I can't do any of those things. I'm an English teacher by profession.

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teaching is fine as well. I didnt mean that as an extensive list.

What i really mean is that i'd like to see all humans removed from the bottom end of the manufacturing and customer service sectors.

Anything that can be easilly automated.


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29 Jan 2019, 7:07 pm

It would be an Autistic Empire with an Autistic based culture.



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31 Jan 2019, 3:32 am

It would collapse within a week