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Are you Christian?
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17 Jan 2007, 9:35 am

I am a Christian, but I dislike going to church, partially because of the socialization and partially because some of my beliefs on various aspects differ from other people.


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20 Jan 2007, 2:13 am

I am a christian!! !

I don't like going to church but being a christian isnt just about church, but a relationship with Jesus. which is more important than church.



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20 Jan 2007, 2:24 am

I need more options!

I believe Jesus lived and that his teachings are important and can save spiritual and maybe physical life. I believe that whether he was the son of God is none of my business, but I do think he was on some kind of divine hookup.

I believe that established religions are institutions created by humans for the empowerment of the privileged few - nothing to do with God at all.

I believe the Bible is divinely inspired. So is the Bhagavad Gita, and probably the other holy books. But taking holy writings literally is dangerous to the soul.

I believe that the only way to put a stop to people fighting wars on behalf of religions is to unite the religions. But within that structure, there is great need for varied forms of worship, since each human is unique.



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20 Jan 2007, 1:43 pm

I am Christian.


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21 Jan 2007, 5:42 pm

I am a Christian but a very liberal one. Oh, and like others have said, I hate coffee hour. I tend to sneak out the door after the service, so I don't have to go.



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22 Jan 2007, 11:11 am

Saepius wrote:
I hate coffee hour. I tend to sneak out the door after the service, so I don't have to go.


Same here... it is just a bother to socialize sometimes... and that's really not what going to church is for. *shakes head slowly*


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30 Jan 2007, 4:41 pm

I won't call myself a christian, that implys to much about rules, laws, and churches. I prefer to call myself a Follow of the Way. I believe in following the teachings and examples of Jesus, but I don't apply any special importance to the bible over any other book of teachings and I don't see how the way jesus died in anyway effects the way people should live.

All that technical bs sounds like people argueing over DnD rules or which movies Kaven Bacon was in. Its just fluff and has no bearing on how you should treat those around you. If Jesus came back today he would walk into the Vatican and start turning things over as he laughed at Creation Theory and patted Darwin on the back.

People just need to stop arguing the small things and try to live the life. :)


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31 Jan 2007, 9:02 am

Atheist. The social networking of a church is useful, though, so I wish there were atheist "churches" that provided the same ability to meet people. (I hate bars and parties. I don't drink (much) and loud music and noise makes it impossible for me to understand what others say.)



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04 Feb 2007, 12:03 pm

I used to be; does that count? I have too many reasons to dislike the Christian church to want to be associated with them anymore. I've lost my faith in the Church, but not in God.
Like Gandhi once said, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ."



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04 Feb 2007, 12:51 pm

Does anyone remember the scene in Life of Brian where Brian stands in front of a crowd of followers hungry to hear his revelation? He tells them "You are all individuals!" (One confused follower replies, "Uh, I'm not.")

I don't consider Jesus, Gandhi, Muhammad, or any other figure to be an infallible source of truth. They've said some things that sound good, and I'll consider them, but they must be balanced with the testimony of others. And I'm much more likely to believe someone with a cyclotron or a sextant than someone who claims they got the truth straight from god's mouth by divine inspiration.

The problem with churches (not just Christian ones) is that they base their world view on dogma from a book handed down from some prophet who claims he was "inspired by god" to write it. No matter what more recent evidence implies, nothing is allowed to contradict The Book. Any attempt to break someone away from a religion is going to have to start with getting them to accept that their Book is fallible, and that's a tremendous effort.

Meanwhile... "Follow the gourd!" :P



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04 Feb 2007, 1:05 pm

So true. I'm all in favor of religions, because they really are the only way to insert moral codes to people effectively (the civic crisis Europe is suffering is the evidence of what happens when you remove religions). But to tell the true I'm Atheist, so I guess I'm being a bit maquiavelic here. If religions make the world to function correctly, all the better. I sure don't know anyone to tell me what to believe, but I understand no one is so fortunate.


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12 Feb 2007, 9:17 pm

I am a Christian. As a child I tended to mix Buddhism and Christianity, but now I would simply call myself a Christian. I have also struggled in the past with much in both the Old and New Testaments (apologies if the term "Old Testament" is offensive to any one - I do not indend it this way) as well as with other issues. It is fascinating to hear from you all.



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13 Feb 2007, 7:44 am

Sir_Sefirot wrote:
So true. I'm all in favor of religions, because they really are the only way to insert moral codes to people effectively


Nonsense. I've rejected all religions all my life and I've got my own damn moral code and it does the job for me, I've never even hurt a fly. I've never really gotten into a fight with anyone, I've never betrayed someone or hurt someone just to get what I want.

No one can dare tell me how to live my life, because I'm quite capable of deciding for myself. Religion isn't necessary for me, in fact I'm far better off without it and I'm quite sure that I can't be the only one.



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13 Feb 2007, 7:58 am

Ignition_Cognition wrote:
Nonsense. I've rejected all religions all my life and I've got my own damn moral code and it does the job for me, I've never even hurt a fly. I've never really gotten into a fight with anyone, I've never betrayed someone or hurt someone just to get what I want.

No one can dare tell me how to live my life, because I'm quite capable of deciding for myself. Religion isn't necessary for me, in fact I'm far better off without it and I'm quite sure that I can't be the only one.


I have no doubt about that 8) If all the humans were AS religions would be mainly unnecesary, since most of us have the rational and moral power not to need them. I was talking about NTs above. They DO need something to believe and to follow and to know how to behave. Pitty NTs.


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13 Feb 2007, 7:59 am

ScratchMonkey wrote:
Atheist. The social networking of a church is useful, though, so I wish there were atheist "churches" that provided the same ability to meet people. (I hate bars and parties. I don't drink (much) and loud music and noise makes it impossible for me to understand what others say.)


I've been wanting an atheist, or at least non-religious "church" for such a long time. I love the idea of meeting up with like-minded people once a week and having somewhere beautiful and quiet to sit and think but I don't think the Christians would appreciate me using their facilities. :-)

I'm surprised there are so many Christians here. Or maybe it's just that more Christians read the Politics, Philosophy and Religion section. Christianity, and most other religions, are the most illogical things I can think of so I've never believed in any of them. Apart from maybe when I was very young and assumed that it must be true because that's all anyone had told me up to that point.



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13 Feb 2007, 8:19 am

coolstertothecore wrote:
I'm surprised there are so many Christians here.


Something like a third of the world's population follows Christianity.