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12 Mar 2013, 2:29 pm

John_Browning wrote:

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Sylkat wrote:

'Snake Handling', like Santeria and Voudon and Palo Mayombe animal sacrifice is allowed/protected by the American Constitution.
Freedom to believe in/practice religion is a basic American legal right.
Mutual respect of each other also means respecting what someone chooses to believe.

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But in certain southern states, snake handling has been deemed illegal.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

They might as well let anyone over 18 and not subject to conservatorship do it. Natural selection is best done in a contained environment. The protections mentioned in the Bible were never meant to cover deliberately drinking all manner of dangerous chemicals and passing around threatened and pissed off cobras...all for show! I wish I had a link to an old story of one of these preachers that ended up in the hospital from attempting to drink a little of a nitric acid solution!

There have been plenty of those damn fools who have died because of the shows they put on with their snakes.

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12 Mar 2013, 5:00 pm

sbourg wrote:

on fire for the Lord

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtwUyDPXROQ[/youtube]

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13 Mar 2013, 12:04 am

I'm really making my best attempts to figure out what it all means (ie. Christianity). I was confirmed Catholic, had at least 15 years away from the church, am trying to come back and figure out what being a Christian even means - hoping to become one as I arrive at a definition that I'd find satisfactory.

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13 Mar 2013, 10:30 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVr2uks0C8[/youtube]

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13 Mar 2013, 11:40 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVr2uks0C8[/youtube]

I can remember back when I was a kid, and Jesus Christ Superstar was in some company considered blasphemous.

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14 Mar 2013, 6:55 pm

Let there be Light. And then there was Light. God saw that the Light was good.
Jesus said to the children, come unto me.

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14 Mar 2013, 7:01 pm

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Let there be Light. And then there was Light. God saw that the Light was good.
Jesus said to the children, come unto me.

Priests say the same thing. Hmmm....

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14 Mar 2013, 7:06 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Drehmaschine wrote:

Let there be Light. And then there was Light. God saw that the Light was good.
Jesus said to the children, come unto me.

Priests say the same thing. Hmmm....

ruveyn

Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

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16 Mar 2013, 9:12 am

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16 Mar 2013, 10:15 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

I'm a Lutheran, and my faith is about the most restrained in our worship of all mainline denominations as can be possibly imagined. In fact, my own Lutheran Church Missouri Synod was the first church body to issue an Anti-Pentecostal statement in history.

Lutheran Church Missouri Synod seems quite similar to the Presbyterian Church in America (which is not like the Presbyterian Church in the U.S.). I began worshipping in a Pentecostal/Charismatic church, but over the decades gravitated towards where I now am. My path was paved by books written by great theologians.

The great divide seems to originate from Monergism vs. Synergism.

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16 Mar 2013, 1:09 pm

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Bland is Grand

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16 Mar 2013, 5:39 pm

Drehmaschine wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Drehmaschine wrote:

Let there be Light. And then there was Light. God saw that the Light was good.
Jesus said to the children, come unto me.

Priests say the same thing. Hmmm....

ruveyn

Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

If there's one thing a Christian can ever be right about it's that I'm certainly earning myself a one-way ticket to hell for laughing at this, presuming they are correct about the existence of hall, which I personally see as being nothing more than a means of using fear to fetter society and bend people to the will of certain political leaders of the day.

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16 Mar 2013, 6:28 pm

ruveyn wrote:

faithfilly wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Bland is Grand

It is indeed!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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16 Mar 2013, 6:35 pm

faithfilly wrote:

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I should mention that almost all Lutheran churches practice a rather restrained worship, with the possible exception of a splinter group who left the Evangelical Lutheran Church In America (ELCA) for a more pentecostal type worship, and so called "progressives" in my own Missouri Synod who want to emulate evangelicals. Luckily, neither group are numerous enough.
But yes, I've always seen a resemblance between Presbyterians, Lutherans, Congregationalists, Episcopalians, and other mainline denominations in their sober, restrained worship.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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18 Mar 2013, 8:05 am

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I wonder how often others go the direction I did . . . from pentecostal to sober? Worship isn't about being entertained. Its as serious as eternity.

Even the Amish aren't immune to straying towards a more pentecostal type worship.

Examples: Amish: Out of Order and Growth of Evangelicals Has Some Amish Leaders Worried

I personally know one Amish woman the same age as me. She's one of the nicest people I've met, but yet others (when she was out of her community visiting mine) treated her awfully. Those (atheistic financially wealthy new-age 'liberated') women acted like unintelligent immature foolish spoiled children.

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