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09 Apr 2013, 7:02 am

Well, what do you want me to say?

They are simply crazy.

EDIT: In fact they are so crazy, when I see a trailer for a Tom Cruise film, I automatically don't want to see it.



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09 Apr 2013, 4:56 pm

I don't know much about it, but from what I've read about it it sounds fascinating...:)


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09 Apr 2013, 6:31 pm

I don't think their teachings are any more crazy than the average mainstream religion. However, they do appear to take mind control and extortion to a much higher level.



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09 Apr 2013, 9:39 pm

Positive proof that all you need is the promise of wealth, the greed of the wealthy and the human ability to disconnect their cognitive thinking for the promise of a fantasy.

All religions feed from this. Scientology is merely the latest addition to the old boys club.



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10 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
he late sci-fi writer Theodore Sturgeon, who was the basis of Kurt Vonnegut's Kilgore Trout, claimed to have been present when L. Ron Hubbard said he was going to start his own religion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Thanks. I looked it up. Theodore Sturgeon was present when Hubbard got pissed and said religion is where the money is, not scifi. I'm gonna use that one.

Cash__, scientologys more cooky than mainstream religions. The mind control is most of the religion. They also know what they want. For example spreading Scientology around the world, Done. They want everyone to be a scientologist :twisted: , and they're working on it.
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10 Apr 2013, 10:02 pm

steveSV wrote:
Cash__, scientologys more cooky than mainstream religions. The mind control is most of the religion. They also know what they want. For example spreading Scientology around the world, Done. They want everyone to be a scientologist :twisted: , and they're working on it.
-Steve

It also has the benefit for all examining its merits of L Ron Hubbard screaming from the rooftops "I made it all up!!", which makes it double-confusing that people jump into it.

As for those who like Aleister Crowley or Jack Parsons... lol... just join an OTO, A∴A∴, or Golden Dawn near you. In fact any of those previous on the list at least has worship of ancient gods, rituals, and sex magick for those looking for adventure while Scientology is utterly barren.



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12 Apr 2013, 11:46 am

Personally, it's hard to believe in Scientology.
Xenu sending billions of people in aircrafts to Earth and killing them by bombarding with hydrogen explosives and putting them inside of vulcanoes? Not for me. I know it is a myth but it could be more realistic. Why not killing people inside of the aircrafts? It makes no sense to me.



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12 Apr 2013, 11:56 am

Because that exploding volcano is such a cool image? :lol:

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12 Apr 2013, 11:58 am

BeautifulTechno wrote:
Personally, it's hard to believe in Scientology.
Xenu sending billions of people in aircrafts to Earth and killing them by bombarding with hydrogen explosives and putting them inside of vulcanoes? Not for me. I know it is a myth but it could be more realistic. Why not killing people inside of the aircrafts? It makes no sense to me.


The story is even more delightfuly insane than that: it was only one aircraft (of the same exact model as one plane of LRH's time). The people were put around the vulcanos, not inside. And the most interesting part is that the souls of the dead people were traped with a beam and were brainwashed into believing in god, the devil and Jesus (Xenu, it seems, was quite the psychic since he predicted the existence of Jesus 75,000,000 years before he was born :D ).



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12 Apr 2013, 11:58 am

BeautifulTechno wrote:
Personally, it's hard to believe in Scientology.
Xenu sending billions of people in aircrafts to Earth and killing them by bombarding with hydrogen explosives and putting them inside of vulcanoes? Not for me. I know it is a myth but it could be more realistic. Why not killing people inside of the aircrafts? It makes no sense to me.

If he'd created people out of dust and each others' ribs, now that is a compelling tale.


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13 Apr 2013, 8:02 am

@ModusPoners
Sorry for my ignorance - I thought it was actually inside... Oh man, those old school encyclopedias!
It's unbelievable, isn't it? As if he was actually the creator of "goodness"(and he was a vile leader). Don't really know how Xenu actually thought of Jesus.

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Well, that's funny too. Not sure if you expect me to believe in that too.



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14 Apr 2013, 5:52 pm

From what I can gather, the xenu document is introduced at OT5. O.perating T.hetan. There's 7 OTs, and they are quite hard to get through. I've talked with few people higher than OT4. If scientologists talked about this a lot I don't think there'd be too many of them. If you ask them about xenu: they'll have no idea what you're talking about, they'll think you're nuts, or they'll think you have a skipped gradient and that it all makes sense if you learned it in the right order. -steve



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14 Apr 2013, 6:27 pm

Steinhauser wrote:
If he'd created people out of dust and each others' ribs, now that is a compelling tale.


Close to what I was going to say, though I was going to remark that the Romans were probably mocking those kooky people worshiping the crucified zombie in much the same tone that we mock Scientology. Which is not to say I support Scientology, merely that I don't find it any more or less crazy than most of the "mainstream" religions, it just hasn't had the benefit of thousands of years to become normalized.


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14 Apr 2013, 7:41 pm

There is an example of Roman graffiti of a crudely drawn slave on his knees before a crucified man with a donkey's head, with so and so "worships his god."

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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14 Apr 2013, 7:45 pm

Here's a link to a handy graphic:

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15 Apr 2013, 9:49 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Steinhauser wrote:
If he'd created people out of dust and each others' ribs, now that is a compelling tale.


Close to what I was going to say, though I was going to remark that the Romans were probably mocking those kooky people worshiping the crucified zombie in much the same tone that we mock Scientology. Which is not to say I support Scientology, merely that I don't find it any more or less crazy than most of the "mainstream" religions, it just hasn't had the benefit of thousands of years to become normalized.

That's what scientologists say, it hasn't been normalized yet. Scientologys different than other religions in that they know what they want and have to means to fare very well. They want to force their way of life to everyone. The way they see it, it's making the world a better place.