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08 Apr 2013, 2:18 pm

Tequila wrote:
It's just been on the news.

RIP Maggie.


Maggie had two big brass gongs. Which is more than most British politicians have. Too many Brits are still channeling Neville Chamberlain.

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08 Apr 2013, 2:22 pm

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I always admired Thatcher.

She rejected groupthink, herd mentality, mass religion, and concepts like societies and the masses, and instead embraced individuality, something more politicians and people alike should do.


She prettty much rejected everything and everyone, except her own political power ofcourse. That was something she was extremely fond of.



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08 Apr 2013, 2:22 pm

Nobody I spoke to today was unhappy about it. In fact it was smiles all round.



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08 Apr 2013, 2:24 pm

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Nobody I spoke to today was unhappy about it. In fact it was smiles all round.


It was Thatcher''s predecessor Winston Churchill; who saved your daddy's and grand-daddy's a**.

You are a member of a spoiled and ignorant generation.

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08 Apr 2013, 2:24 pm

"This woman is headstrong, obstinate and dangerously self-opinionated" -- Personnel officer at ICI when rejecting her for a job in 1948.

"She is clearly the best man among them" -- Barbara Castle referring, in her diaries, to the Tory front bench.

What others have said about Margaret Tatcher

She certainly left an impression, I'll say that much.



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08 Apr 2013, 2:26 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Maggie had two big brass gongs. Which is more than most British politicians have. Too many Brits are still channeling Neville Chamberlain.

ruveyn
This ^
Love her or hate her, she had the courage to act on her convictions and bigger balls than anyone in parliament, then or since.


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08 Apr 2013, 2:30 pm

A question for people from the UK:

Are all these british conservative politicians made in the same factory? If so, is there any chance that this factory will be closed down soon?



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08 Apr 2013, 2:31 pm

ruveyn wrote:
IDontGetIt wrote:
Nobody I spoke to today was unhappy about it. In fact it was smiles all round.


It was Thatcher''s predecessor Winston Churchill; who saved your daddy's and grand-daddy's a**.

You are a member of a spoiled and ignorant generation.

ruveyn

What has Winston Churchill got to do with this?
Also, I was reporting the public mood round where I am.



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08 Apr 2013, 2:34 pm

Cornflake wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Maggie had two big brass gongs. Which is more than most British politicians have. Too many Brits are still channeling Neville Chamberlain.

ruveyn
This ^
Love her or hate her, she had the courage to act on her convictions and bigger balls than anyone in parliament, then or since.




Ye see yon Brit, he's called a pol,
Wha whines and wimpers, an' a' that;
Tho' hundreds worship at his word,
He's but a tw*t for a' that:
For a' that, an' a' that,
His soapy words, an' a' that:
There stood Maggie of independent mind
She looked an' laughed at a' that.

Thank you Robert Burns for the legwork

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08 Apr 2013, 2:36 pm

I am really sad. Margaret Thatcher was not just the most effective British PM other than Churchill. Thatcher was the most effective democratic leader of the 20th century. Love her or hate her, she reshaped the UK into exactly what she wanted it to be. True, post Thatcher UK society has massive problems, but no one would dare go back to the days before her.

My thoughts are with her family. I hope the people of the UK and around the world have a chance to properly reflect on her legacy.



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08 Apr 2013, 2:39 pm

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Are all these british conservative politicians made in the same factory?


There hasn't been a British Conservative politician with the same gravitas since. Daniel Hannan - who is a Conservative pro-EU withdrawal MEP is a good speaker, though:

Here he is opposing a motion in the Oxford Union to Occupy Wall Street:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZpJeHN0_gw[/youtube]

And speaking at CPAC in 2012:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BujuEpGmKMg[/youtube]

And here he is in New Zealand debating against a pro-EU speaker:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEoD6S9HaZg[/youtube]



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08 Apr 2013, 2:46 pm

Thatcher will remain controversial until the end of time. She was PM before my time but to be fair I think she was the last of the (so called) great statesmen. Britain has been governed by a series of mediocre PM since 1990. Blair was an egomaniac on a power trip; Cameron is a public school snob who is only PM to out-Blair Blair; and the other two were grey men neither of which were cut out to be PM.



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08 Apr 2013, 2:46 pm

lotuspuppy wrote:
I am really sad. Margaret Thatcher was not just the most effective British PM other than Churchill. Thatcher was the most effective democratic leader of the 20th century. Love her or hate her, she reshaped the UK into exactly what she wanted it to be. True, post Thatcher UK society has massive problems, but no one would dare go back to the days before her.

My thoughts are with her family. I hope the people of the UK and around the world have a chance to properly reflect on her legacy.


This gives a whole new meaning to the expression"crocodile tears".



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08 Apr 2013, 2:55 pm

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It's just been on the news.

RIP Maggie.


...and nothing of value of lost.

I say that as a child who once received free school milk.


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08 Apr 2013, 3:26 pm

She was an inspirational figure like Reagan and like Reagan she had her flaws as well. Like her or not there is no denying her significance in history.

Sad to see some sick people celebrate her death.



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08 Apr 2013, 3:31 pm

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I say that as a child who once received free school milk.


How old are you? You would have had to have been born before the late 1960s to receive free school milk in order to blame it on 'Fatcher'.

Free school milk was originally brought in for a very good reason - British children were starving and often malnourished, and free school milk was a way of making sure that most kids still got their protein.

The Labour Party removed free school milk from 11 to 18 year olds in 1968. The next Conservative government continued the trend - but, of course, Labour never thought to mention that they had actually started the process! Margaret Thatcher actually opposed further cutting of school milk. The demand came from the Treasury with the direct support of Edward Heath.

Later, the Government provided subsidies to allow schools to provide free milk but these were cut in the mid-1990s.

New Zealand were the first country to bring in free school milk and they abandoned it in the late 1960s too, also on cost grounds.



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