Ding Dong The Witch is Dead set to top the UK charts

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And that makes a difference because......?
(Hint: I am expecting you to explain why, in your opinion, people are only allowed to care about things that happened in their lifetime.)
(Cheap shot: I am expecting you to fail.)

You might what to look into the background of her two children: her son Mark is a convinced arms dealer and her daughter Carol is a Z list celebrity on reality TV shows.

IMO its upsetting that that woman have left behind dysfunctional children plus not for forgetting her political children in all three main parties are dysfunctional as well!

She certainly did a lot things right in office, such as improving cold war relations, privatization of national firms and creating the free market, but it's what she done wrong that's creating all this fuss. She dragged Britain out of the industrial dark ages (which was obviously worthwhile), but she done it in such a brutal fashion that lives were completely destroyed in the process. Her poll tax was a horrible financial burden for many people to bear and was completely unnecessary. Any nation struggling financially should always filter money down to the poor for the simple reason that they have to spend it. The poor were the last thing on Mrs Thatchers mind. I can't understand all the fuss over this song, these people can do nothing to her in death in comparison to what she inflicted on them in life.

What I'm saying is that it seems that those who weren't actually there at the time (and seem to have based their hatred on what has been passed down to them or what they have been indoctrinated in) seem to have the strongest and most unyielding hatred in their hearts. They don't have much of the context of the time and the memories of the 1970s and what happened under the Labour and Conservative governments of those eras. This doesn't seem right or logical. These kinds of people (like thomas81) aren't interested in the actual facts of the situation as they actually played out if they contradict the image of a demon they have built up in their heads. And I'm a long way from saying that she was perfect. She wasn't (but I'd sooner have her than David Cameron, that's for sure).

A lot of those who actually opposed her - and strongly - during her time in office are speaking out against this kind of stuff. They have kept their humanity.

When Martin feckin' McGuinness - a former IRA Chief of Staff for many years - shows more human decency than some of this scum, you know that something has gone deeply wrong.

Hang the b***h! Drag her through the streets!

Under Atlee, we had full employment, with the welfare state being a fall back for those who required it for short periods, particularly the sick.

Under Thatcher, unemployment soared and people became reliant on the state:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... Ag&dur=741

Remind me... which one is the socialist?

One could therefore say that the welfare state was a good thing in principle (as long as it is small, unobtrusive, efficient and generally lets people get on with their lives), but it has simply grown and grown and become tumour-like.

So those with different politics to you have been "indoctrinated"? Whereas everything you know is pure and proper and unbiased knowledge I suppose?

No, not at all. Where did you get that idea from?

I've mentioned a fair bit of praise for those on the left that very strongly disliked and campaigned against some or all of her policies in office (I would have hit the roof over the VRA, for instance - had I been able to, I would have loved my video nasties) but haven't descended to the depths of taking malign and vicious public pleasure at the death of a very elderly and ill woman.

Thank the parasitic and envious left for exposing itself as every bit as hateful as the Westboro Baptist Church. In fact the WBC wants their ban on entry to your country lifted so they can join the "party", they'll settle just mailing you guys some signs tho. I've seen Mrs. Thatcher's quote on society not existing mentioned a few times over the last week, what type of society conducts itself this way? Do you have no values? It's funny that they show such hatred while at the same time screeching about Mrs. Thatcher's supposed lack of compassion and humanity.

I hope sane people remember the actions of these buffoons and what they claim to believe.

Erm, how does the second half of your sentence follow from what I said?

It has grown and grown largely because of the ageing population.

52% of "benefit" spending is state pensions (£110 billion p/a). 25% is given to people in work, things like income support, housing benefit and working tax credits. The final 23% (about £50 billion) is "out of work benefits" and £18-20 billion of that is JSA (the remainder being ESA, DLA, incapacity benefit, and similar). Most people on JSA are unemployed for less than six months. I don't know where child benefit fits into that, but here's an article from the Economist about why we should continue to pay Child Benefit to the long term unemployed: http://www.economist.com/blogs/blighty/ ... nefit-cuts

There are a few people who abuse the system, but they are a tiny minority which makes many "tiny minorities" look large. Total benefit spending is about £212 billion, benefit fraud is £0.8 billion. By all means, bring the fraudsters to justice, but don't penalise those who use the system legitimately.

In short... no it hasn't.

No need to, Carol can shoot herself in the proverbial foot, she has done so back in 2009 with the BBC, do you remember?

I'll remind you she did it with a racist remark:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/fe ... wog-remark

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I respect the right of those who want to rub the faces of those currently having a Torygasm over the late Thatch in the fact that half the country loathed her, her death has released a lot of bitterness, particularly in areas which have never fully recovered from deindustrialisation. The southerners on the board should remember that she was never our leader, and that we have every right to spit on what she did - you should never destroy without a plan to rebuild. Benefits to prevent folk starving are not a long term solution - it was the lack of a viable future which killed communities. And while some of the kids don't know, the folk who lived through it can never forget.

Full employment should be the goal of any self-respecting government - a government should seek to serve ALL the people. Being stuck in a jobless desert helps nobody. Thatcher believed mass unemployment was a price worth paying, for the North, Wales, and Scotland. Well they were all lefties weren't they? So you can't blame people for sticking a childish two fingers up. Its no less that she showed to our communities back before she lost the plot. Growing old and frail doesn't give her a get out of hell free card. Incidentally I didn't buy it, but I can understand why some people did.

What it also sums up is the insecurity of those who feel the need to speak out against those who are partying. Thatcher fans know that people are justified in hating her, and by voicing their opinion on any act of celebration over her death are revealing their fears that those who hate her outnumber those who love her.

Well I am assuming her children are upset, but who knows, maybe they are relieved.

Those who were too young to remember her are now facing hardship because of her policies. They have just as much right, if not more, to have opinion on Thatcher than those of us who remember her.

And let us not forget there will be legions of teenagers in places like Surrey who are probably being led to believe that Thatcher was a saint.