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Will US conservatism (as we know it) die out?
Your prognosis is correct, doctor. Conservatism will die. 29%  29%  [ 4 ]
Your prognosis is incorrect, quack. Conservatism is already dead. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No. Conservatism will survive because of (please specify) 43%  43%  [ 6 ]
No. Conservatism may be dead, but it will rise again because of (please specify) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
On Planet X, Rutabaga-flavoured ice cream salesmen will crucify GGPViper as punishment for his excessive shenanigans. 29%  29%  [ 4 ]
Other (please unravel in your reply or GTFO) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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03 Jul 2013, 1:37 pm

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Producing more republicans like Teddy Roosevelt and fewer like Ted Nugent wouldn't hurt either.
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F*** Yeah!


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03 Jul 2013, 1:45 pm

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What the conservatives fail to realize is that today the practice of medicine is secularized but in Old Testament times the Levitical Priests were responsible for medical care. The Doctors were not supported by unaffordable lump sum payments nor were they supported by unaffordable insurance premiums but these Doctors were supported by a form of taxation called the tithe which is based on 10 percent of agricultural income.


I did not know that!



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03 Jul 2013, 3:21 pm

No conservative religious preacher has ever taught that tithing entitles people to universal health care coverage. That is why the religious leaders are so rich because they pocket the money.



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03 Jul 2013, 3:23 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
What the conservatives fail to realize is that today the practice of medicine is secularized but in Old Testament times the Levitical Priests were responsible for medical care. The Doctors were not supported by unaffordable lump sum payments nor were they supported by unaffordable insurance premiums but these Doctors were supported by a form of taxation called the tithe which is based on 10 percent of agricultural income.

Today's conservative preachers still demand tithes but none of them offer comprehensive medical services.


Moses ben Maimon (Maimonedes) practiced medicine in Egypt and he was no priest. Eventually there were non-priestly Jews who learned to practice medicine.

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03 Jul 2013, 3:30 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
Producing more republicans like Teddy Roosevelt and fewer like Ted Nugent wouldn't hurt either.
:P


F*** Yeah!


Agreed,I'm ashamed to admit I saw that thing in concert.It was a lousy show.


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03 Jul 2013, 3:36 pm

Okay, so what naughty things has Nugent done lately?
I know the peaceniks and tree huggers hate him because he goes out in the woods and shoots critters and eats them but what else?
Inquiring minds want to know.....


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03 Jul 2013, 3:47 pm

^^^^I just don't like him,he's an ass.There are quite a few hunters that are tree huggers.If you destroy the forest where are you going to hunt?In the ' burbs?Gonna take on that pesky possum thats in the trash?


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03 Jul 2013, 4:02 pm

Umm yeah... Teddy Roosevelt just happens to be a hunter/tree hugger, and so was I, when I could walk without crutches.

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03 Jul 2013, 4:05 pm

^^Will you be able to get around without them before fall?Squirrel season in October.


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03 Jul 2013, 4:10 pm

^^ Probably not...

But I'm not complaining. Back in January I was nearly a ful-on paraplegic.

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Attention Raptor: http://www.badassoftheweek.com/roosevelt.html

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03 Jul 2013, 4:21 pm

^^^That's a positive outlook,I'd prefer crutches to being bedridden.I hope you make a full recovery.


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03 Jul 2013, 5:35 pm

So - disregarding the obvious Troll known as androbot2084 - how likely is it that the Limited Government/Minarchist/Libertarian platform can secure an electoral victory, be it in Congress or in a Presidential election?



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03 Jul 2013, 6:16 pm

So if I do not believe that limited government is biblical I am a troll?



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03 Jul 2013, 6:37 pm

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So if I do not believe that limited government is biblical I am a troll?


Think again. here is what samuel said to the Israelites when they demanded a King to rule over them:

8 When Samuel grew old, he appointed his sons as Israel’s leaders.[a] 2 The name of his firstborn was Joel and the name of his second was Abijah, and they served at Beersheba. 3 But his sons did not follow his ways. They turned aside after dishonest gain and accepted bribes and perverted justice.

4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead[b] us, such as all the other nations have.”

6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle[c] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”

19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”

21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the Lord. 22 The Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”

That was the biggest sin the ancient Israelites committed. They wanted a King to rule over them. Well they got one. Saul the Maniac.

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03 Jul 2013, 6:58 pm

The current republican party will splinter, and I don't know what will emerge out of the ashes. I wouldn't be surprised if what does emerge would still be labeled "conservative" though, and that's because the Republican party does not represent all of the viewpoints that would be considered conservative.



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03 Jul 2013, 7:02 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Yeah, but OT god is a douche.


The OT God is the real God if there is a Real God at all. God the Father of the Gospels is a Gnostic mud pie.

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