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Yep:

The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity

That is not evidence. An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

However, you illustrated how conspiracy theories persist. People argue that the evidence for the conspiracy does not exist because of the conspiracy.

Argumentum ad Ignorantiam (Appeal to Ignorance): the fallacy that a proposition is true simply on the basis that it has not been proved false or that it is false simply because it has not been proved true. This error in reasoning is often expressed with influential rhetoric.

Examples:

"In spite of all the skeptical talk, not a single flying saucer report has been falsified. We may assume, therefore, that flying saucers are real."

"No one has objected to Obama's policies during the last few hundred posts, so I suppose that WP members now all approve of his policies."

"Since the class has no questions concerning the topics discussed in class, the class is ready for a test."


Circular Reasoning? Confirmation Bias? Cephalo-Rectitis?

lol. Most of the above, I think. As I wrote in one of my books:

I'm still waiting for answers to the questions that I asked the OP.

General Logic Fault: (I)gnore, (E)vade, (A)ttack or (R)eply?

1.1.0 It really doesn't matter, it could be huge, but what would the point be for that?

1.2.0 Like my answer above, it doesn't matter but possibly hundreds of millions of people know of it.

1.3.0 Of course.

1.4.0 They would need 3 main things: Military control from a powerful country (USA), control of the financial system of the world but mainly from Great Britain, and the religious control of the world (The Vatican). However, they could expand on this. Name one thing that the government DOES NOT control or regulate. They regulate food, water, transportation, medicine, pharmaceutical industry, and so on...

1.5.0 If you look back in history, the Federal Reserve took over the economy back in 1913, before that we had gold as the currency. Now we have worthless paper that is slowly losing value everyday. Also back then the IRS was formed, this was a illegal, unconstitutional corporation. They made it illegal to not file taxes too. So it has been happening for about 100 years now and the money has come from the working people's taxes.


2.1.0 The government gains from it. Have you ever heard that quote from the Bible? The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist. And it's like playing hard to get.

2.1.1 Nobody. You keep saying "Illuminati" like I said, it does not have to be "Illuminati". Have you ever read the Latin on the dollar bill? Novus Ordo Seclorum means "New Order of the Ages" or what the politicians say "New World Order"

2.1.2 Easy for them, but it takes time, lots of time.

2.1.3 Like I said, it can be seen as hard or easy, but they had to convince us it is necessary. (Paying taxes to a illegal system or letting the economy take a nosedive and we think it's our fault or something else it to blame)

3.1.0 Think about it for a second. The richest one person can buy ANYTHING. They can pay to control the media, which in turn they can choose what stories are important to us. They also decide that sports and the Superbowl must be important so that they are out of the spotlight. The politicians corruption and lobbyists spending hundreds of millions will not ever be on the media, unless they choose to have a small scandal. Do you remember the March Against Monsanto protest? Yeah, over two million people protested and it was barely on any news stations. It was largely ignored because Monsanto lobbies millions to Congress and the media.

3.2.0 Simple. They would either kill you for leaving or lock you up in prison or a government institute for the rest of your life. And if you left without them knowing, they would label you on the media as something false. Perhaps a sex offender or murderer and the media ALWAYS tells the truth. So why would anyone else question the media?

3.2.1 They have. You aren't looking hard enough. You have to search for it yourself, no one is going to hand you the information like that. But like my last answer, the media is controlled by the Mega rich, so why would the Mega rich want themselves to be exposed like that. They can even control Youtube or the social media. You think I'm joking? I have seen many of Ron Paul's videos or other supporters of a truly free nation and the video views were lowered. They then raise the views on other videos to make it seem like that those videos are cool with the public. Anything to stay out of the spotlight.

3.2.2 This also entwines with my previous answers. The Mega rich own the media, and to add more information to that. We have become a civilization where the Mega rich want to keep the wealth in the family. This may not imply for all the Mega rich families. But some of those families wanted to keep the wealth in their bloodline for hundreds of years, so they inbreed with each other, which is now causing severe mental problems with their children and their children are their heirs who rule us now. (Like the Rothschilds)

4.1.0 Simple. They tell you "In one pocket, I have a million dollars. In my other I have a gun with a bullet with your name on it. What are you going to choose?" Basically it's like you either join us or you die. Now, I know you might think "Well what if you join them as a spy who would later reveal all their secrets?" That goes back with the 3 sections. They control the media, so your story would be thrown out the window and then they would kill you for trying to betray them.

4.2.0 I doubt they do. But they would keep tabs on who is really evil and improve their ranks. Perhaps make them a general or a president or so on. You are aware that the government has secret locations or operations, meetings going on every day.Why are they hiding everything in Area 51? So other governments don't know about? There working with those governments. So we don't know about it? What the hell is a ordinary citizen going to do with that info? Intelligently build a complex spacecraft? No.

4.3.0 They go to secret meetings. Look up Bilderburg. They do not allow citizens to go to these meetings but government and high paying corporate officials can go.

4.4.0 It's called Bilderburg, but they may have many others.

4.5.0 They would kill anyone who found out and if you secretly found out and tried to get the word out, you would be labeled as a "Nut case", "Conspiracy theorist" or something even worse like a rapist or sex offender and the media would never allow your story to be told. Even your evidence would be labeled as false by "experts"

5.1.0 They run a global network. Why do you think they want a "One world government" and they gain by keeping the money for themselves. They don't want paper money, are you kidding. Why do you think the Federal Reserve and Fort Knox are just hoarding their gold and protecting it from us. When the value of the paper dollar reaches zero. Gold, silver, and platinum will more than quadruple. Also, why do you think Africa is the poorest country in the world, when it has the most mineral resources such as gold?

5.1.1 Ever hear the term "Divide and conquer" or "United we stand, divided we fall"? They have been taking over countries and nations for years. Japan refused to join them, what did we do? We dropped atomic bombs not on military bases, but on cities with women, children, and babies in it.

6.1.0 All at the same time, yes. But remember what I said before. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he doesn't exist.

6.2.0 For people to think it's a joke.

6.2.1 Possible, but who would believe them. You already don't believe me even when I stated how badly corrupt this government is. Let me ask you what are you going to do about it? Let the politicians keep raking in millions while the average family struggles to get by. Have you seen all the homeless everywhere, and I mean EVERYWHERE.

6.2.2 This is not even a question. But do you know that after Hurricane Sandy the military took guns from the survivors and never gave them back? You never heard about that, huh? Goes back to the media being controlled by a select few.

6.2.3 What like a camera? They could just as easily deem your findings as false or a lie or even state that it is from another country. It would never get on the news, like I've said many times now, unless you are a billionaire, nobody would care. Even if you were a billionaire, your story would be censored or never be put on the news. They would lobby against that and pool their money in so they would always have more then you.

Let me ask you this. Why do we have a private banking system? And why did Woodrow Wilson say this quote after signing the Federal Reserve Act of 1913?
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men"

Who said I was giving evidence? I only gave my opinion on this theory.

I think those conspiracies are rather boring. They invariably involve

1. The Illuminati
2. The Freemasons
3. The Bilderberg Group (not Bilderburg. The Bilderberg Group is named after Hotel De Bilderberg in Oosterbeek)
4. The Knights Templar
5. All of the above
6. Occassionally alien reptilians

And the Great Seal of the US is a masonic emblem.

Blah...not very imaginative.

They ALL, are really just fronts for the Rosacrucians!

And the Rosacrucians are really just a front for the Rothechilde family.

( or is it- the Rothchildes are a front for the Rosacrucians? I can never keep it straight!).

That is what THEY want you to think.

An opinion not based on evidence?

You can't argue with a pile of YouTube videos.

I asked for a number, and you give me Evasion.


I asked for a number, and you give me Evasion.


Evidence, please? Without the numbers from the first two questions, your answer to the third is irrelevant.


What evidence is there to support the idea that the Illuminati actually controls these things?


What evidence is there to support the idea that the Illuminati actually controls these things?


I asked who gains what (and how much) from the Illuminati, and you quote Bible verses. Evasion again.


The topic of this thread - the one that YOU started - has to do with the Illuminati. Evasion again.


Evidence, please? If they control everything, then explain why it takes time to obtain something that allegedly they already control.


Again, if they control everything, then explain why they have to convince people that allegedly they already control.


What does this have to do with the Illuminati? Again, you're being evasive.


So, do you have evidence that any of this is happening, or are you just making this all up as you go along? Why go to all of the trouble to discredit someone when they can be made to disappear?


You're joking. Ron Paul's videos are unpopular because he comes across as an egotistical, fear-mongering bigot.


Evasion again. "The Media" does not include Last Wills or the Confessional. You cite "inbreeding" as another means to divert attention away from your lack of evidence.


And how did you come to have this information? Remember, you previously admitted that none of the Illuminati have leaked the story, and you claimed that The Media controls the Confessional and the Last wills of its members. It can't be both ways.


More evasions. Please stick to the questions being asked, and provide factual information, not mere assumptions.


The Bilderburg meetings are diplomatic. Thus, only diplomats and their staff are allowed to attend. If ordinary citizens were allowed in, they would disrupt the proceedings with their protests, false accusations and stupid questions.


Name them.


So why haven't they killed you? Who has accused you of being a sex offender? Why hasn't "The Media" shut down this website?


Nobody is hoarding gold from you - if you want some, just buy it. Africa is a continent not a country.


They are all working together, or they are all divided against each other. Make up your mind.


Again with the Bible verses! Your evasive tactics reveal only that you have nothing to prove.


I asked about contradictions, not your sense of humor. f you won't take thhis seriously, then no one else is likely to, either.


What are you doing about it, now? I've been homeless. Now I own houses that other people rent. It is not impossible to escape poverty. Just stay away from drugs, criminal activity, and violence. Study hard, earn a university degree, work hard, and thrive. I've done it.


Again, you are evading the question.


Argument from Incredulity is a fallacy of the First Order. Satellite photos don't lie. Private drone photos don't lie. Recordings of intercepted conversations don't lie.

[opinion=mine]

Here's what I think is happening: The reason that your theories aren't being acted on is because you can not provide the necessary strategic data that could provide a tactical advantage in planning. Without this data, you can not even prove that your enemy exists. If you keep talking about unprovable enemies, you will eventually discredit yourself so much that not even Ron Paul would take you seriously.

Face it, from a skeptic's point of view, all you have are assumptions, rumors, and too much time on your hands. You have no proof; only innuendo.

You have nothing.

[/opinion]


Aside from the fact that this is another evasion on your part, it's because Woodrow Wilson was a putz. He was also one of the last few putzes who believed that States' Rights should have precedence over Federal law. He felt that by centralizing the banks, he was signing into law the means by which the last vestige of State freedom was being dissolved. Unfortunately, he seemed to have forgotten what happens when the States believe that the Federal government has no authority over them - he seems to have forgotten the American Civil War.

So he was unhappy ... he signed it into law anyway, and by saying that he was unhappy with doing something that he was actually happy to do, history exonerates him from being at fault for doing something that he wanted to do.

That's called "Crocodile Tears".

By the way, just because you saw something on YouTube, that does not make it true - that makes it Troll Science.

I'd still like to know who THEY are.

I stated a fact. If an organization like that existed, the vast majority of people would be oblivious.

A fact is a statement which is so self-evident that the vast majority of reasonably informed people would agree with it.

Your claim that most people would be oblivious to an omnipotent, omniscient oligarchy is not self-evident. It is counter-intuitive.