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05 Feb 2007, 3:30 am

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Flagg, I cannot believe you actually believe sterilization or marriage will prevent people from molesting children. Wake up and smell the reality.......most child molesters are married and have children of their own. What on earth are you thinking here. This is sexual battery here, not an act of wanting a partner. The man that got ahold of me had been molesting children for years. He had a wife, he had children, he could have been with women, thats not what he wanted. I can't believe you think that if Catholic Priest got married they wouldn't harm children. FALSE,FALSE,FALSE. And most Priest,Rabbis,Clergy and Teachers are NOT CHILD MOLESTERS. You write as if only pediphiles work in the church, they are EVERYWHERE. Why only deal with people in the church???? Wrong is wrong. And I am very discusted with what you are saying here. You think you have the answer...let them marry. HELLO, most are.


Then make sterilization by Castration required.

Without testicles there is no way one can even get an erection.


I can see a unanimous vote... or is that a speck in my Gatorade?

People need to give their church the finger and take their beliefs home. NO good God would have his people go to church at the risk of their children being molested or raped.



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05 Feb 2007, 11:23 pm

Then I guess we can't send our children to school, outside to play, at the neighbors house. You think only child molesters hide in the church? Not true. Read the paper. My husband and I are sunday school teachers, and we've never molested children. I use to work with children who were sexual abuse victims, and not one of them was molested by anyone in the church.They were victims of parents,aunts,uncles,siblings,cousins,nieghbors. Not by anyone in the church like I was. And like I said, there was no God in that man. And never would I allow such evil to prevent me from doing what I love to do. I am soooooooo shocked by the ignorance that I'm reading here. So I guess those of you who have been writing here will trust any one with their child as long as they are not from church. PLEASE DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. Because I'm sure you'd trust David Westerfield with them, because after all, he's not from any church.



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05 Feb 2007, 11:40 pm

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Then I guess we can't send our children to school, outside to play, at the neighbors house. You think only child molesters hide in the church? Not true. Read the paper. My husband and I are sunday school teachers, and we've never molested children. I use to work with children who were sexual abuse victims, and not one of them was molested by anyone in the church.They were victims of parents,aunts,uncles,siblings,cousins,nieghbors. Not by anyone in the church like I was. And like I said, there was no God in that man. And never would I allow such evil to prevent me from doing what I love to do. I am soooooooo shocked by the ignorance that I'm reading here. So I guess those of you who have been writing here will trust any one with their child as long as they are not from church. PLEASE DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. Because I'm sure you'd trust David Westerfield with them, because after all, he's not from any church.


Actually, I don't even trust my brothers' father around my brothers.



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06 Feb 2007, 12:19 am

people keep saying how priests should be allowed to marry because it'll keep the whole child abuse thing down.....no it won't. a majority of child molestation is about power than anything else. it'd easily make sense that someone who is a priests or rabbi or someone like that who strives for power would be abusive like that...i'm surprised the house of representatives doesn't have more child molesters.

allowing priests to marry would only serve to allow more men to become priests thereby making the ratio of sexual predators a lot lower but still there.



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06 Feb 2007, 10:48 pm

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Without testicles there is no way one can even get an erection.


Castration has been statistically proven not to prevent recidivism in rapists. If they can't get it up, they'll just grab whatever's lying around and use that. Not being able to get an erection doesn't stop men from becoming sexually aroused, because it's sexual arousal that triggers it in the first place. At least that's my understanding.

But seriously. Castration doesn't prevent recidivism in sex offenders.



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07 Feb 2007, 3:17 am

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Without testicles there is no way one can even get an erection.


Castration has been statistically proven not to prevent recidivism in rapists. If they can't get it up, they'll just grab whatever's lying around and use that. Not being able to get an erection doesn't stop men from becoming sexually aroused, because it's sexual arousal that triggers it in the first place. At least that's my understanding.

But seriously. Castration doesn't prevent recidivism in sex offenders.


i think that goes at least somewhat back to what i said about it being about power.



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07 Feb 2007, 4:04 am

Then we are back at the beginning: how the frack do we deal with these sick ****ers?


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07 Feb 2007, 4:42 am

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Then we are back at the beginning: how the frack do we deal with these sick ****ers?


Deport them to Mexico. It's just an idea.



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07 Feb 2007, 5:55 am

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Then we are back at the beginning: how the frack do we deal with these sick ****ers?



well if you're charitable and a little more left-leaning then you put them away by themselves and give them psychological counseling.


if you're not charitable, you just kill them. they're a detraction on society and have a perverse attraction towards power and abusing power.


i'd advise the former option considering the possibility of a false guilty verdict.



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10 Feb 2007, 5:53 pm

By the way, in the article over here http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/kolko_yehuda.html it was mentioned that Rabbi Kolko kept asking one of the victims "does it hurt" as he kept touching him. So it was very stupid of the victim not to say "yes it hurts" and then he would of stopped.



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10 Feb 2007, 9:17 pm

Flagg wrote:
Then we are back at the beginning: how the frack do we deal with these sick ****ers?

Kill 'em.



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10 Feb 2007, 9:44 pm

hows ted haggard these days? i hear hes completley cured of his homosexuality.. howed that happen in such a short period of time like that?


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10 Feb 2007, 9:55 pm

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hows ted haggard these days? i hear hes completley cured of his homosexuality.. howed that happen in such a short period of time like that?


Actually I haven't heard any updates on him. Can you show me a link where it says he was cured?

P.S. to answer your quesstion, I iwould guess he is pretending to be straight again the way he did until he was caught. Of course it is in his favor to pretend that, I don't think there is anything too surprising. But still I would like to read it, just out of curiocity.



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10 Feb 2007, 10:09 pm

i dont have a link and i dont care that much to go searching for one. i heard it on the radio the other day though, it said he was completley cured of his homosexuality


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10 Feb 2007, 10:31 pm

Actually I just ran a search and found a couple of links:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5164921

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-H ... r=homepage

And yes it sounds like he is lying again. Quite independently of whether or not it is possible to be cured so fast, he contradicts his own words about the past. The quote from one of these two articles is this:

""He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting- out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."

At the same time in the speech of appology he said "there is part of me so dark and repulsive I had been warring against it all my life"

So how can it be acting out if it is something he was struggling with all his life???

But then again since he was hiding for so many years he was gay, why not do it now especially since there is nice excuse -- he was "restored"