Why is prostitution illegal?

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I'd say leave the women alone and prosecute the johns.

I used to think that was a good idea, but sex workers themselves are very critical of it where that sort of policy has been applied (like in Sweden.)

I see this two ways....

1. Prohibition doesn't really work. Hence, making something illegal that's not downright fatal to society is bad policy where preserving individual liberty is concerned.

2. A moral society should not tolerate immoral behavior. The later will destroy the former.

It's easy to defend criminalizing prostitution as so many people (particularly those in poverty) can be drawn into an abusive world of sex for money, and all they do is get by.

On the other hand, why should it be criminal for someone with a nice body, who wants to have sex for money, be denied the freedom to do that of their own free will?

There is no easy answer to this.

For the moral person, legitimizing "sin" may be the more effective way to deal with a problem without an intrusive political state, but it leaves the person in a moral conflict of essentially "blessing" the behavior by not trying to stamp it out.

That we live on a planet where there is no more virgin territory to colonize, the moral people can't just pack up and move and live in a society of their own creation. Even if they did, in time would not the populace argue that they are being "backward" to not do things as the rest of the world does? Why not have those who want legalized prostitution move to a country that allows it rather then force their home country to change?

To answer the last why..

Simply as it is not the liberty and justice of the general public that is in question ..but those of who want to sell their bodies..for sex..

There is separation of state..and church..and even one nation under GOD does not specify any creed or specific belief for a higher power...

And realistically speaking..the economic status of people contemplating this type of profession...are usually not one that is in reasonable financial shape to move to a different country...

It's really no less important than gay rights..for marriage and all of that..

If this is what is required to make for subsistence in life...

But anyway.. considering Florida is 'backwards' enough not to expand medicare coverage under the HCA..it aint' never likely happening here no matter what the national level of politics could do to make this happen..

We can't even get casinos while they can get them..in friggin Mississippi...

Thanks to 'great' right wing politicians like Governor Scott....

Why do you have transwomen in brackets?

Why is that, just out of curiosity? Do you also hate people who pay for non-therapeutic massage? Consumers of pornography? Strip club patrons?

The true measure of cognitive empathy is understanding that not everyone 'ticks' the same way...

I used to think i was above and beyond somethings.. like eating sweets.. and i will admit it used to disgust me to see unhealthy looking medically obese folks stuffing their mouths with sweets...

And then i developed the worst pain known to mankind and i too started stuffing my mouth with sweets...

Life is funny that way...'karma' and all of that...

But until one truly walks in the shoes of every one else..this thing about being disgusted about what other people are doing..is relative reALLy to wHere one IS in life...

And life is a very long thing..for those who make it that far..in the sense..that ya might walk in the shows of someone else...

Some people need touch...and yes some people need the intimate kind of touch..and yes there are some males and females who have an extreme urge to simply f**k....

PornograPhy..strippers..AND YES PROStitutes play their 'bloody' role to provide 'band' 'aid' to the the fellow members of their 'band' or 'tribe'.....

It's always been this way...

Different 'strokes' for different folks...

Humans are complex AND DIVERSE...

Some folks like to f**k all the time....
And some folks don't.....

But yah..different needs for different folks...

BUT OH MY GOD YES..YES..BABY YES.. DO IT TO ME...

DO YOU GET MY DRIFT YET...

LIFE IS ONE BIG 'COCK' 'TAIL' OF 'SPICE'....

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE ALL ABOUT 'it'

And some people are not....

Dismissing human nature..as not reality...

Is thE HEIGHT OF ALL HUMAN IGNORANCE...

In respect of and to every 'one' in this conversation.. by the way...
To be clear this comment is generated by reading all the responses..
And is not directed at any one individual in this discussion.

And by the way again...

The founders of the Constitution DID THEIR DAM BEST...
TO MODEL THIS COUNTRY IN RESPECT OF HUMAN NATURE..AND NATURE IN GENERAL....

WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT ONE NATION UNDER GOD...

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FORCES THAT CONTROL ALL..OR THE THAT..THAT IS ALL FORCES...

THAT IS ALL...
IT IS...
ALLITIS
IS
TH@WH@IS
IS

And with that in mind..considering the full fore thought of the 'founding fathers'....
Outlawing gay marriage AND Prostitution should be UNconstitutional..

IN my LEGAL OPINION....

BUT DAM..I'LL NEVER MAKE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT...

TOO MANY SKELETONS..IN THE CLOSET..HAHA....

An earlier poll showed that agreement wasn't completely complete.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt212908.html

Many of us with AS also have anxiety disorders.

Our sexuality may have a link with our anxiety, or may be a means of coping with anxiety.

A good professional executive ejaculatory administrator may be very therapeutic.

The answer to all of those questions is most likely yes.

Sex work is the same as any other work, it is our puritanical values that ostracize and push it to the fringes of society where people are victimized.

Not wanting to answer for our Puddingmouse (after all, if she were to reject all consumers of pornography, she would have a very tiny pool of candidates remaining), for something as personal as courtship, she may set any standards she wishes.

I personally wouldn't want to get involved with a smoker. Except that I did, once. A long time ago, when I was young, in Thailand. The coitus was phenomenal, and made up for it.

Anyway, by the same token, it is generally recommended for the gents not to marry (or to become romantically involved with) an executive ejaculatory administrator. Go ahead and rent their charms, enjoy them, and have some fun. Pay for their services. But, don't marry one.

Because they are often a neglected group when talking about prostitution, like male prostitutes are. They are women, but their clients often see them specifically because they have a fetish for transwomen, so they have to deal with that fetishisation on top of the usual issues that female sex workers face. They're treated differently both by society (more marginalised) and by their clients. Sorry if it sounded like I was implying they weren't women, all I meant was that they need special consideration when discussing this topic.

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Because I don't want to have sex with someone who can have sex with a person who doesn't want to have sex with them for its own sake. I have this standard for myself of not having sex with someone who doesn't desire me or the sex itself. I wouldn't have sex with someone if I'd have to pay for the privilege. I want a partner with the same standards as I have regarding that.

You could say that I should include more people that johns in this, and I do. I like the type of partner who makes sure that their partner definitely wants sex with them and isn't doing it completely for another reason (to get status, security, because they can't say no, etc) but that's always tricky to be 100% sure about, whereas with prostitution, it's clear-cut what they want out of the encounter. I prefer a partner who makes the effort to ensure that sex is mutually desired and pleasurable. It's a big ask, but I've decided to not settle for any less, and I think I've met someone like that.

This standard doesn't apply to porn and strip clubs simply because whilst the sex workers in those areas are doing sexual things purely for money rather than pleasure, they aren't having sex with the people themselves. You could argue that morally, it's the same thing, but there's less personal involvement there than actually sticking your penis into someone. It's like the difference between someone buying consumer goods made in a sweatshop and someone owning a sweatshop - and no I'm not implying prostitution is inherently exploitative like sweatshops are (though it can be) it was just the only analogy that came to mind.

Dox also asked about massages. What about people who pay for the happy ending? So long as you're not penetrating the masseuse herself?

I've never really thought about the reasons for it being illegal.

Saying that, I have often wondered why it's not legal.