04 Apr 2014, 12:32 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
As far as worshiping a liberal fat one - no.
You're forgetting about Micheal Moore, the liberal fat ass of liberal fat asses.
Quote:
As for a a radio talk show host having any degree of power over elected officials - I think even you can agree that that's at the very least unseemly. At worst, it demonstrates how there are individuals - like the fat one - who can circumvent elected official's constituency.
That's just one of the perils of freedom. In this case the freedom of speech as in the 1st Amendment. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Limbaugh circumvents anything. After all, he's not some kind of a sorcerer.
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04 Apr 2014, 12:45 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As far as worshiping a liberal fat one - no.
You're forgetting about Micheal Moore, the liberal fat ass of liberal fat asses.
Quote:
As for a a radio talk show host having any degree of power over elected officials - I think even you can agree that that's at the very least unseemly. At worst, it demonstrates how there are individuals - like the fat one - who can circumvent elected official's constituency.
That's just one of the perils of freedom. In this case the freedom of speech as in the 1st Amendment. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Limbaugh circumvents anything. After all, he's not some kind of a sorcerer.
I don't hang on every word muttered by Michael Moore. And sure, there is freedom of speech, and I'll happily concede that extends also to Limbaugh. But for a radio personality to wield that kind of power to make elected officials kneel before him on bended knee goes beyond what the founders had intended. A single voice shouldn't be able to make elected officials change their minds when making a statement about government or society, when threatened with being voted out of office next election. And yes, I agree that part of the fault is with the elected leaders who are too gutless to stand by their convictions when it comes to the power held by this blowhard.
04 Apr 2014, 9:25 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As far as worshiping a liberal fat one - no.
You're forgetting about Micheal Moore, the liberal fat ass of liberal fat asses.
Quote:
As for a a radio talk show host having any degree of power over elected officials - I think even you can agree that that's at the very least unseemly. At worst, it demonstrates how there are individuals - like the fat one - who can circumvent elected official's constituency.
That's just one of the perils of freedom. In this case the freedom of speech as in the 1st Amendment. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Limbaugh circumvents anything. After all, he's not some kind of a sorcerer.
I don't hang on every word muttered by Michael Moore. And sure, there is freedom of speech, and I'll happily concede that extends also to Limbaugh. But for a radio personality to wield that kind of power to make elected officials kneel before him on bended knee goes beyond what the founders had intended. A single voice shouldn't be able to make elected officials change their minds when making a statement about government or society, when threatened with being voted out of office next election. And yes, I agree that part of the fault is with the elected leaders who are too gutless to stand by their convictions when it comes to the power held by this blowhard.
So if we took away the vote and free speech that would put us where you want us to be? Well, that's about what it would take. I noticed you threw in "what the founders had intended". Yep, seen that in a lot of the gun control debates where they claim to be able to read the minds of the founding fathers. Again, Limbaugh is not a sorcerer.
04 Apr 2014, 1:40 pm
04 Apr 2014, 1:55 pm
04 Apr 2014, 2:02 pm
04 Apr 2014, 2:05 pm
Misslizard wrote:
Malarky,I don't care what anyone says,I just won't listen if I don't like it.I never watch Faux news and I don't believe I have ever listened to Rush Limpdick.
I agree sadly growing up my parents watched this crap all the time and made me listen to Rush Limpdick all the damn time in the car my family is mostly conservative, I used to be but as i got older I became more Liberal. I hid my liberalness from my parents and dont bring up politics whenever I visit because it can spark outrage. lol So I put on my false conservative face whenever I visit.
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04 Apr 2014, 2:21 pm
Misslizard wrote:
Malarky,I don't care what anyone says,I just won't listen if I don't like it.I never watch Faux news and I don't believe I have ever listened to Rush Limpdick.
And you're the official spokeslizard for all liberals?
It's not all about YOU.
04 Apr 2014, 4:17 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As far as worshiping a liberal fat one - no.
You're forgetting about Micheal Moore, the liberal fat ass of liberal fat asses.
Quote:
As for a a radio talk show host having any degree of power over elected officials - I think even you can agree that that's at the very least unseemly. At worst, it demonstrates how there are individuals - like the fat one - who can circumvent elected official's constituency.
That's just one of the perils of freedom. In this case the freedom of speech as in the 1st Amendment. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Limbaugh circumvents anything. After all, he's not some kind of a sorcerer.
I don't hang on every word muttered by Michael Moore. And sure, there is freedom of speech, and I'll happily concede that extends also to Limbaugh. But for a radio personality to wield that kind of power to make elected officials kneel before him on bended knee goes beyond what the founders had intended. A single voice shouldn't be able to make elected officials change their minds when making a statement about government or society, when threatened with being voted out of office next election. And yes, I agree that part of the fault is with the elected leaders who are too gutless to stand by their convictions when it comes to the power held by this blowhard.
So if we took away the vote and free speech that would put us where you want us to be? Well, that's about what it would take. I noticed you threw in "what the founders had intended". Yep, seen that in a lot of the gun control debates where they claim to be able to read the minds of the founding fathers. Again, Limbaugh is not a sorcerer.
So Limbaugh's influence threatens the constituency base of politicians, and that's a problem? I thought it was called a democratic republic. They were elected to represent and serve us, so whoever we choose to listen to and however we choose to vote is entirely what the founders intended. An orator or journal author having wide influence on a politician's constituents is nothing new, you can see that involved in the first congressional and presidential campaigns. If they are being threatened out of office by the idea that people won't vote for them, that's called democracy. It is our choice to listen to whomever we please and to vote however we please. I don't see such rampant criticism and claims that our founders ideals are being taken hostage when you see the exact same kind of crap on MSNBC, where there is barely any actual reporting and just opinionated talk pieces full of nonsense and sophistry.
I'd certainly like to see some substantive arguments about the founders' intentions for once, too, instead of blithe references to it. So what did the founders intend? Have you ever actually read the early annals of congress?
04 Apr 2014, 4:22 pm
04 Apr 2014, 4:31 pm
AspieOtaku wrote:
I don't think arguing with Raptors view is going to be helpful or change his hardcore conservative views he will stick with his views hardcore red blood murica burgers and American muscle cars and such till the day he dies!
04 Apr 2014, 8:44 pm
Lukecash12 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As far as worshiping a liberal fat one - no.
You're forgetting about Micheal Moore, the liberal fat ass of liberal fat asses.
Quote:
As for a a radio talk show host having any degree of power over elected officials - I think even you can agree that that's at the very least unseemly. At worst, it demonstrates how there are individuals - like the fat one - who can circumvent elected official's constituency.
That's just one of the perils of freedom. In this case the freedom of speech as in the 1st Amendment. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Limbaugh circumvents anything. After all, he's not some kind of a sorcerer.
I don't hang on every word muttered by Michael Moore. And sure, there is freedom of speech, and I'll happily concede that extends also to Limbaugh. But for a radio personality to wield that kind of power to make elected officials kneel before him on bended knee goes beyond what the founders had intended. A single voice shouldn't be able to make elected officials change their minds when making a statement about government or society, when threatened with being voted out of office next election. And yes, I agree that part of the fault is with the elected leaders who are too gutless to stand by their convictions when it comes to the power held by this blowhard.
So if we took away the vote and free speech that would put us where you want us to be? Well, that's about what it would take. I noticed you threw in "what the founders had intended". Yep, seen that in a lot of the gun control debates where they claim to be able to read the minds of the founding fathers. Again, Limbaugh is not a sorcerer.
So Limbaugh's influence threatens the constituency base of politicians, and that's a problem? I thought it was called a democratic republic. They were elected to represent and serve us, so whoever we choose to listen to and however we choose to vote is entirely what the founders intended. An orator or journal author having wide influence on a politician's constituents is nothing new, you can see that involved in the first congressional and presidential campaigns. If they are being threatened out of office by the idea that people won't vote for them, that's called democracy. It is our choice to listen to whomever we please and to vote however we please. I don't see such rampant criticism and claims that our founders ideals are being taken hostage when you see the exact same kind of crap on MSNBC, where there is barely any actual reporting and just opinionated talk pieces full of nonsense and sophistry.
I'd certainly like to see some substantive arguments about the founders' intentions for once, too, instead of blithe references to it. So what did the founders intend? Have you ever actually read the early annals of congress?
It's not Raptor ( me ) that has an issue with Limbaugh, it's Kraichgauer and his comrades.
04 Apr 2014, 8:46 pm
AspieOtaku wrote:
I don't think arguing with Raptors view is going to be helpful or change his hardcore conservative views he will stick with his views hardcore red blood murica burgers and American muscle cars and such till the day he dies!
That's right and don't you forget it.
04 Apr 2014, 9:24 pm
Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Malarky,I don't care what anyone says,I just won't listen if I don't like it.I never watch Faux news and I don't believe I have ever listened to Rush Limpdick.
And you're the official spokeslizard for all liberals?
It's not all about YOU.
Speaking for myself,but I still don't know any liberals that watch that off hand.
How do you know what liberals are watching on tv anyway,are you peeping in the windows of Liberals with your rifle scope?
And if I remember right,you drive*GASP*a rice burner.Tsk,tsk.
05 Apr 2014, 4:02 am
05 Apr 2014, 4:24 am
Misslizard wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Malarky,I don't care what anyone says,I just won't listen if I don't like it.I never watch Faux news and I don't believe I have ever listened to Rush Limpdick.
And you're the official spokeslizard for all liberals?
It's not all about YOU.
Speaking for myself,but I still don't know any liberals that watch that off hand.
How do you know what liberals are watching on tv anyway,are you peeping in the windows of Liberals with your rifle scope?
And if I remember right,you drive*GASP*a rice burner.Tsk,tsk.
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