What would you consider public funding of transgender care?

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Actually it is, in certain appropriately selected cases (chosen by following the standards of care). This is supported by statements by the major health organizations and the medical literature, including the Merck Manual which I posted.

Your statement that it is not is incorrect, and is opposed by the major health organizations and the medical literature.

Unless you are born a hermaphrodite, you have to deal with the hand you are dealt regarding genders.

It is never necessary.

For example. If I was born a woman, but still had the exact same personality, I wouldn't want to be a guy. I'd want to be an mma fighter and marry a nerd with long hair that can play the guitar.

Beyond this I am not going to go, I don't want to offend people.

But I still don't believe changing genders is the way.

Health insurance companies in the U.S. also agree that it is medically necessary, but for most of their plans they elect to categorically exclude coverage for the treatment, meaning they will not pay regardless of necessity. For example, Aetna, a major health insurance company, states:

But, they also have this statement at the top (underline in original):



http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0615.html

Blue-Cross Blue-Shield of Tennessee makes extra clear in its fine print that just because a procedure is medically necessary, that doesn't mean they're going to cover it:



http://www.bcbst.com/mpmanual/Gender_Reassignment.htm

That sweeps the insurance argument from out below your feet before you can even think about it.

Do you believe that if a majority of the public shares your ideology, that that should override the judgment of health professionals?

I see several people claiming that sex reassignment surgery is not medically necessary for individuals with gender dysphoria.

What I do *not* see are the medical credentials of those people making such claims documenting that they are actually informed on the subject. I - like many others - defer to the knowledge of the medical establishment, as I fully recognize my lack of personal expertise on the subject.

As such, I have to assume that Lukecash12, Kurgan, zer0netgain and appletheclown are all medical doctors with the extensive training (medical specialisation in psychiatry, urology, gynecology, surgery etc.) required to assess whether or not an individual has a medical need for treatment in the area of sex reassignment surgery.

After all, otherwise... you'd be guilty of quackery.

And what if we are guilty of quackery?

I'm taking prescription meds, that as a side effect, could cause me to grow female breasts. I could care less! I have to take it to even be functional.

It isn't cool, but I deal with it. I'm sorry if people want this stuff to happen to them, but I'm not paying for it when it could happen to me without a choice.

Examine this graph carefully.

At some point in human history, we stopped relying on quacks for medical treatment, and started trying to actually understand diseases and use treatments that would work.

Would you like to guess approximately when this happened?

I consider it a perfectly acceptable state of affairs.

I do not have any credentials in political science, education, psychology, anything regarding any language, law or anything not related to engineering either. This doesn't mean that I'm not entitled to have an opinion about any of the aforementioned subjects, nor does it mean that I'm wrong when I say that some qualified teachers mislead the kids, that there's an overdiagnosis of CFS/ME and ADHD in Scandinavia, or that some lawyers are as crooked as scoliosis.

I soon hold a degree in computer science, my skills were picked up by the largest software developer in the north rather quickly, and I were among the top students in my class; does this mean that I'm right if I claim that the government should fund software for people?

Last edited by Kurgan on 04 Apr 2014, 1:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

This.

I've gotten what I want in life by working extra hard because of my Asperger's syndrome; there's no reason why someone with gender dysphoria shouldn't be able to do the same.

On second thought, if my medicine can cause me to grow breasts, and I need to have surgery to cut them off I guess I should understand. Never mind.

If I ever take steroids and develop gyno from it, I'd pay for the surgery myself.

A sick person is a sick person whether or not it is transgender or not.

I might object to providing sex change operations at tax payers expense, but genuine medical care for injured or ill people must be administered on a uniform basis. The illness or the injury is what is being treated.

ruveyn

It is a non steroid prescription. But I understand that viewpoint.

I might pay for it myself as well even though I need the meds.

This^

You seem to be undereducated on the symptoms of gender confusion.