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08 Mar 2007, 4:00 pm

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If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him

(So people don't get the wrong idea. That's a Buddhist phrase)


Whats the meaning of that?

"The Zen Master warns: 'If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him!' This admonition points up the fact that no meaning that comes from outside of ourselves is real!" - http://home.earthlink.net/~denmartin/iym.html

I found this on the above website.



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09 Mar 2007, 7:59 pm

"He who looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
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I find that odd considering the activity against gay marriage by Christians.



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10 Mar 2007, 8:50 am

The ink is black, the page is white
Together we learn to read and write
Read and write
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This is the law in all the land
All the land
The ink is black, the page is white
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Read and write

It's from one of my favourite hymns.


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17 Mar 2007, 12:46 pm

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17 Mar 2007, 1:26 pm

Happy13 wrote:
Corvus wrote:
Xuincherguixe wrote:
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him

(So people don't get the wrong idea. That's a Buddhist phrase)


Whats the meaning of that?

"The Zen Master warns: 'If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him!' This admonition points up the fact that no meaning that comes from outside of ourselves is real!" - http://home.earthlink.net/~denmartin/iym.html

I found this on the above website.


Hmm, what an interesting short read on that link. The odd thing is, I tend to agree with it. I keep questioning things but deep down, I've had this thought that everything just "is." I want answers but answers just seem to lead to more questions



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17 Mar 2007, 1:26 pm

"Fundamentalists are from Hell. They are a test in your faith. If you can still tolerate Christianity after meeting one, than you are a true Christian."~ My grandmother (Speaking on my frustration on some nutty people I'd met at a church.)


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17 Mar 2007, 5:45 pm

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17 Mar 2007, 9:59 pm

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17 Mar 2007, 10:10 pm

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Atheists in foxholes, some say they are myths,
Creations of the mind who just don't exist.
Yet, they answered the call to defend, with great pride.
With reason their watchword, they bled and they died.


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[N]either antiquity nor any other nation has imagined a more atrocious and blasphemous absurdity than that of eating God. … This is how Christians treat the autocrat of the universe.



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21 Mar 2007, 10:15 pm

Flagg those are beautiful.



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22 Mar 2007, 1:14 am

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22 Mar 2007, 3:16 am

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Along with Jesus and a similar phrase from K'ung Ts'e/Kongzi (Confucius) apparently. Which Sutra (Buddhist scripture; not to be confused with Sura, chapter of the Qur'an) is that from? Someone else on Wrong Planet attributed this to Buddha and it is certainly consistent with what I know of Siddhartha's (Buddha Sakyamuni's/Tathagata's) philosophy as it has been preserved.

"Wash you, make you clean, put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good. Come now, saith the LORD, let us reason together. Though your sins be as red as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be like crimson they shall be as wool." Isaiah 1:16-18, Nevi'im (prophets) Tanakh (Hebrew Scriptures or the Old Testament). It comes after a passage where the prophet Isaiah (or God via Isaiah, depending on your point of view) has reproached his compatriots for excessive ritual in the absence of moral reform (the Mosaic sacrifices are not themselves attacked so much as religious ritual if unaccompanied by a change of life).


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22 Mar 2007, 12:02 pm

AlexandertheSolitary wrote:
snake321 wrote:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

Buddha


Along with Jesus and a similar phrase from K'ung Ts'e/Kongzi (Confucius) apparently. Which Sutra (Buddhist scripture; not to be confused with Sura, chapter of the Qur'an) is that from? Someone else on Wrong Planet attributed this to Buddha and it is certainly consistent with what I know of Siddhartha's (Buddha Sakyamuni's/Tathagata's) philosophy as it has been preserved.


Whoever said it, its true. Its about the simplest way for a 'law' system to operate. (Of course, now there are loopholes for everything, it aint cut and dry anymore)



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22 Mar 2007, 12:32 pm

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22 Mar 2007, 6:23 pm

Immortal wrote:
"Fundamentalists are from Hell. They are a test in your faith. If you can still tolerate Christianity after meeting one, than you are a true Christian."~ My grandmother (Speaking on my frustration on some nutty people I'd met at a church.)


I must confess I like this one! What was specifically unhinged about them? Sorry if that sounds like morbid curiosity.


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22 Mar 2007, 6:59 pm

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"He who looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
- Jesus

I find that odd considering the activity against gay marriage by Christians.


Ah, some of the less frequently quoted parts of the Sermon on the Mount (there were more than the Beatitudes - the "blessed are the meek for..." passages - in this fascinating part of Matthew)! Does it not continue, "If your right eye causes you to sin/stumble/offends you, pluck it out," or something similar? Presumably advocating not self-mutilation but ridding our lives of that which causes us to sin. Your interpretation is an interesting one. The passage is generally understood as against indulging in and dwelling upon lust - I have often been quite distressed by this pasage.

Another memorable quotation from this Gospel:
"There are some who are eunuchs for they were born so from their mothers' wombs, there are some who are made eunuchs by men, and there are some who make themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of Heaven." Third passage

And from the seventh chapter of St Paul's first epistle to the Corinthians:
"It is good for a man not to touch a woman... it is better to marry than burn."

Conversely, his first canonical letter to his friend Timotheus or Timothy has both "a bishop/overseer should be the husband of one wife," and "It shall come to pass in the latter days that many will fall away and turn aside, giving heed to seducing spirits and devils' doctrines, having their consciences seared with a hot iron, forbidding marriage and commanding to abstain from meats," or something similar (also distressing in the past in an "Oh dear, I might be the Antichrist, I think I will go and hide in the cellar now," way. While as you may have seen from the earlier quotation he was capable of being quite positive about celibacy, the nicest thing he (Paulos/Shaul)has to say about vegetarians is that we have weak faith, but that those who have faith that they can be omnivorous should not eat meat in front of us if it is likely to cause us to stumble, as for us it WOULD be sin as everything that does not proceed from faith is sin. Last bit a loose paraphrase of something in Romans, possibly reiterated elsewhere. I think the "forbidding, commanding" concerning something not essential to salvation may have been Paul's issue in the I Timothy passage. Then again, some will want to use this as further amunition to accuse Paul of inconsistency, as with, on the one hand, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for all are one in Christ," (Galatians; there is a similar passage elsewhere that includes barbarians, Scythians, and possibly Thracians along with the Greeks and Jews, though slave and free, male and female was already quite inclusive) and on the other hand, "Wives, submit to your husbands..." You can equally justly accuse C. S. Lewis of sexism. I think there should be an acknowledgement that people are complicated and furthermore capable of change; they were both seriously struggling and working through issues. Their lives are both quite remarkable in terms of the radical turn-arounds involved. That should be plenty of grounds for discussion and controversy! I hope I have not excessively distrssed anyone.


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