pokeapoke wrote:
"He who looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
- Jesus
I find that odd considering the activity against gay marriage by Christians.
Ah, some of the less frequently quoted parts of the Sermon on the Mount (there were more than the Beatitudes - the "blessed are the meek for..." passages - in this fascinating part of Matthew)! Does it not continue, "If your right eye causes you to sin/stumble/offends you, pluck it out," or something similar? Presumably advocating not self-mutilation but ridding our lives of that which causes us to sin. Your interpretation is an interesting one. The passage is generally understood as against indulging in and dwelling upon lust - I have often been quite distressed by this pasage.
Another memorable quotation from this Gospel:
"There are some who are eunuchs for they were born so from their mothers' wombs, there are some who are made eunuchs by men, and there are some who make themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of Heaven." Third passage
And from the seventh chapter of St Paul's first epistle to the Corinthians:
"It is good for a man not to touch a woman... it is better to marry than burn."
Conversely, his first canonical letter to his friend Timotheus or Timothy has both "a bishop/overseer should be the husband of one wife," and "It shall come to pass in the latter days that many will fall away and turn aside, giving heed to seducing spirits and devils' doctrines, having their consciences seared with a hot iron, forbidding marriage and commanding to abstain from meats," or something similar (also distressing in the past in an "Oh dear, I might be the Antichrist, I think I will go and hide in the cellar now," way. While as you may have seen from the earlier quotation he was capable of being quite positive about celibacy, the nicest thing he (Paulos/Shaul)has to say about vegetarians is that we have weak faith, but that those who have faith that they can be omnivorous should not eat meat in front of us if it is likely to cause us to stumble, as for us it WOULD be sin as everything that does not proceed from faith is sin. Last bit a loose paraphrase of something in Romans, possibly reiterated elsewhere. I think the "forbidding, commanding" concerning something not essential to salvation may have been Paul's issue in the I Timothy passage. Then again, some will want to use this as further amunition to accuse Paul of inconsistency, as with, on the one hand, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for all are one in Christ," (Galatians; there is a similar passage elsewhere that includes barbarians, Scythians, and possibly Thracians along with the Greeks and Jews, though slave and free, male and female was already quite inclusive) and on the other hand, "Wives, submit to your husbands..." You can equally justly accuse C. S. Lewis of sexism. I think there should be an acknowledgement that people are complicated and furthermore capable of change; they were both seriously struggling and working through issues. Their lives are both quite remarkable in terms of the radical turn-arounds involved. That should be plenty of grounds for discussion and controversy! I hope I have not excessively distrssed anyone.
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You are like children playing in the market-place saying, "We piped for you and you would not dance, we wailed a dirge for you and you would not weep."