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12 Nov 2014, 1:01 am

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^^^
From the clips I saw from Fox this last election, the hosts were barely able to contain their glee. So it's hardly just MSNBC. And incidentally, Michael Savage used to have a show on MSNBC, till he was fired for telling a gay caller on air that he wished he died of AIDS, while Joe Scarborough, who was a very conservative southern congressman, still has a show on that channel called Morning Joe. So it's hardly the case that MSNBC lacks political diversity.

MSNBC more than 10 years ago isn't the same as it is now obviously, it was actually at one time the cable news channel I liked the most. They also had Jesse Ventura for a short amount of time. That started changing around time Tim Russert died and the 2008 election, it has gotten progressively(hey a pun) worse since then. Mind you I don' watch cable news or even have cable but the Fox seems pretty straight forward with its biases(Hannity isn't a newsman) and is more apt to have someone defending opposing viewpoints. MSNBC use to have Pat Buchanan before they fired him for being Pat Buchanan, I think they just had to him just to be scare the liberals lol. All that is there now is Scarborough and Scarborough the congressman more than 10 years ago and Scarborough the MSNBC host are two different things, there are a lot of people that have had the knives out for Joe too even with meager Republican defenses.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg4_lBnVniU[/youtube]

Pat Buchanan is a racist and homophobe, and deserved to be fired.

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12 Nov 2014, 6:07 am

and he is also a thug, he got arrested for beating up some cops when he was younger and fuller of piss and vinegar!

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12 Nov 2014, 6:16 am

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I'm a proud right-winger here (and in the minority).

The fact is that the left loves propaganda. Their whole worldview is predicated on the false notion that believing something is 'good' makes it so. Hence horrendous policies like forced busing, redistributive tax policies, government-mandated healthcare and job crushing regulations get enacted. The left's love affair with less freedom has been a recurrent theme since the '30s. This election, real Americans gave a resounding NO to the Obama, Reid, Pelosi agenda.

"Real Americans"? I guess all the other Americans have been faking it all those years.

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12 Nov 2014, 6:21 am

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"Real Americans"? I guess all the other Americans have been faking it all those years.

I wouldn't put it past them that they wanna kick all the rest of us out and claim it all for themselves. or enslave us.

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12 Nov 2014, 7:12 am

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"Real Americans"? I guess all the other Americans have been faking it all those years.

I wouldn't put it past them that they wanna kick all the rest of us out and claim it all for themselves. or enslave us.

Do you deal in anything but hyperbole, identity politics, and emotional diatribes? I'd honestly like to know, because for all I know this could be Fear and Loathing and you're just arguing with imaginary people. Am I real or are you on mescalin and LSD, and you think this is Vegas? Because what you've been bemoaning lately doesn't sound all that much like any conservative I've seen posting here. Apparently you know us better than ourselves and can get right down to our underlying motivations for the positions we take, after all I'm a figment of your imagination, so of course you know what I'm thinking. I am a reflection of your innermost soul, on LSD that is.

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12 Nov 2014, 10:22 am

the authoritarian feminist left love propaganda as well. and have no problem controlling the narrative or blatantly
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jw5cF4yTks[/youtube]
this is a parody.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EOyV9f2g6k[/youtube]

most conservatives I know are just people I want to find and support the truth. but the again I mostly listen to the alternative right. (youtube conservative philsophers, davis aurini, and stefan molyneux a bit.)

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12 Nov 2014, 11:42 am

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and he is also a thug, he got arrested for beating up some cops when he was younger and fuller of piss and vinegar!

Geez, I didn't know that about Mr. law and order. When did that happen?

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12 Nov 2014, 11:51 am

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What about civil rights legislation protecting unpopular minorities like racial minorities and the LGBT community? That was enacted by liberals. Is that at all bad? And last I remember, it was conservatives who have always said it was an affront to their liberty to keep them from discriminating against such groups.
Not to mention, it was liberals behind labor laws protecting workers from exploitation by employers. Is that at all bad. Again, it was the right who complained this, too, was an attack on their liberty.
As for regulation that liberals are behind, if you enjoy eating safe food, buying safe products, and breathing safe air, it doesn't seem to be such a great sacrifice with some liberty for the safety of the rest of us. And it should be remembered, there wouldn't be any need for regulations if the producers of goods and services at one time or another hadn't tried screwing with the rest of us.

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12 Nov 2014, 11:54 am

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Please explain definition of "alternative right."

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12 Nov 2014, 5:45 pm

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Apparently you know us better than ourselves and can get right down to our underlying motivations for the positions we take, after all I'm a figment of your imagination, so of course you know what I'm thinking. I am a reflection of your innermost soul, on LSD that is.

let's just say you and yours give me no reason to trust you any further than I could throw a piano. you say outrageous things such as "that's just the way people are" as though it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and that absolutely makes me wanna rolf. you actually REVEL in the status-quo!

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12 Nov 2014, 5:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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and he is also a thug, he got arrested for beating up some cops when he was younger and fuller of piss and vinegar!

Geez, I didn't know that about Mr. law and order. When did that happen?

when he was a college student in the 50s.

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12 Nov 2014, 6:25 pm

Unsure123 wrote:

Their whole worldview is predicated on the false notion that believing something is 'good' makes it so.

Funny, this criticism seems to be just as applicable to the reactionary authoritarian far-right, who are so happy to force their morality on society as it is to any portion of the left. From those people comes the wisdom that Americans who don't accept their nonsense aren't even 'real Americans'.

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The left's love affair with less freedom has been a recurrent theme since the '30s.

This is a quaint talking point, but what do you have to back it up with? What freedoms has the left trampled on? The freedom to not serve coloured folks in your restaurant? The freedom to sexually harass a female employee with impunity? You must have a really distorted understanding of freedom if you sincerely believe The left's love affair with less freedom has been a recurrent theme since the '30s.

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12 Nov 2014, 6:48 pm

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and he is also a thug, he got arrested for beating up some cops when he was younger and fuller of piss and vinegar!

Him punching a cop is actually part of the reason my dad was so fond of him :lol:

I'll say this, Pat may of said some offensive things but he is still better than 99% of the GOP.

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12 Nov 2014, 7:21 pm

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/video-playli ... 080/lkmdal
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... d-edition/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4l4pBTDm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88cAq1Lw3o

Right wing TV and radio is for the gullible!

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12 Nov 2014, 7:26 pm

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Actually, the right is against freedom. No net neutrality ( freedom of speech). The right is for redistribution of the wealth. There has been a massive theft from the working class and poor to the ultra rich. In other words from those that create value to those that merely bet on other's productivity. The right is for freedom for international corporations and less freedom for individual American citizens.
Job crushing regulations? Like making our meat supply safe...What on earth silliness are you talking about?Yes, I am sure one can find a few silly regulations but most ( for example, when Wall Street and the banks were deregulated that caused our current financial meltdown.) benefit American citizens. But Republicans do not care about American citizens, only international corporations.
See my last post before this one and you will see why you have such absurd beliefs. You were lied to.

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12 Nov 2014, 7:32 pm

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http://thedailyshow.cc.com/video-playlists/6snvbp/daily-show-16080/lkmdal
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... d-edition/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4l4pBTDm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88cAq1Lw3o

Right wing TV and radio is for the gullible!

and for people who like to divide the more able from the less able, the higher class from the lower class.

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