What is your general opinion of humanity?

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My thought too, but it wasn't an option so I had to go for parasites of Gaia.

I wonder sometimes.

For all that man is capable of doing, in the end, the vast majority of humanity acts no better than a virus. I could easily see an alien species choosing to exterminate over 90% of the human race in an effort to preserve it.

The vast majority of "us" do not contribute to the betterment of the species or the planet...and we choose to consume more than we ever desire to give back (and I don't just mean food, clothing and shelter).

It is an endless folly

Sheeple. As Nietzsche would put it, most people have a herd mentality. People do not care about freedom. If they did they would not put up with having their right to a trial being taken away. People don't even care that a fundamental right that all rights depend on has vanished.
However, that does not mean that I hate people. I love people. I also love my dog, that is very domesticated.

There are a lot of people and It is impossible to know what they truly care about unless they tell us, and then how would we know if they were telling the truth?

It is a common human tendency to view other people as some variety of sheeple who can't handle the truth. In the same vein, probably thanks to the Walking Dead, Zombies are becoming my subconsciouses go to metaphor in my dreams for the rest of humanity. I don't think it's healthy.

The people who think before they act are the ones best suited (imo) for furthering the human species. All the bad eggs and sheeple are ruining it for the rest.

Jack the Ripper was very methodical.

imperfect vehicles for imperfect spirits to become [eventually] perfect spirits.

I should explain what I meant by the Dyson option. It might seem ambiguous as there are many facets to his character. What I meant specifically was that people tend to make things which seem like a good idea at the time, but wind up destroying themselves. Things such as bad career moves, bad marriages, bad habits, creating monsters etc.

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I don't have a personal disdain towards humanity, I find misanthropists base hatred on their own individual experiences over what we have achieved through humanism and science.

Two wrongs do not make a right, vengeance and hatred are vicious cycles that repeat themselves and generations become so lost in their emotions that they fail to progress and grow.

I have experienced the kindness and warmth of others and I hope that is a kindness I can return to someone else if I am ever in a position to do the right course of action.

Of course, there are bad apples and they are highlighted because good news is never news but I think it is important that we reach a positive consciousness of unity and understand. There are many issues as such as climate changes, pollution, globalization and those are issues that we need to approach logically. There are also those that do not respect the will or beliefs of others and they must also be civilized and be taught to cooperate.

Spoken like a true public speaker.
Almost reads like a press release

There are many different types of logic.
But not every logical thinker is civilized enough to respect alternative logics and most prefer to stick to their own.

about as good as it can be, I'd rather view sentience, I find sentience to be way to dangerous to exist, for no productive goals. humanity, its a safe space for sentience safer than other animal experiences. we have more control more knowledge more understanding of right and wrong, we can control the suffering we feel, and impose and create spheres of almost no suffering humans should make use of this and actually stop the ego games, and ultimately this life game as well. which is a insane joke.

The voluntary human extinction movement is not something I would endorse. It's incredibly sad that it seems to be gaining traction. it must be made up of people from places where treating each other like dirt is the default behaviour. Other kinds of places exist, and I think that if the VHE proponents lived in some of those kinds of places, then they would probably feel a lot more optimistic about the other human beings that they share this planet with.

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anti natalism is legitimate philsophy.I fall more into applying it to animals too. which would be another group its more of a philosophical question than a movement for me. because ultimately no one cares about the truth, no one cares. this engine started and the energy it has and the way people will fight to keep it going is insanely high. there is no stopping it. and its going to hurt trillions countless ammounts of sentience, I respect your personal opinions and I have my own but ultimately the pro-natals are going to win anways so *shrug*

I believe that all people maximize their rationality to the greatest extent that their experiences, material conditions, and cognitive development allow.

To the extent I am able to grok the minds of others, I generally find them to be flat, and this flatness seems to be a function of the neurotypicality of the mind in question. (By a flat mind, I mean a mind limited to fewer (analytic, synthetic, and/or evaluative) dimensions than my own.)

However, I cannot rule out the possibility that this appearance of flatness originates, not in the set or structure of the mind I grok, but in the algorithm by which I attempt to grok said mind. Since the flaw could be my own, I do try to be patient with others.

gee, that is heavy