Janissy wrote:
aghogday wrote:
....Now as to why Astrology does work better than coincidence, ....
except that it doesn't work better than coincidence. People just convince themselves that it does by selectively only looking at the coincidences that align with astrology and ignoring other data points. It's a rule from How To Lie With Statistics. If you just dump all the data that doesn't fit your pattern then suddenly all the data fits your pattern.
I agree, very possible for you, but not for me.
Interesting it is, how different minds work and perceive the world.
I am a statistician by knowledge in college, and also in the decades long grind of working for the government in collateral duty and there is no way the things I personally experience in life are the result of coincidence alone per the science of statistics as studied in college and applied at work.
Truly I pay little to no attention to astrology, but numerology bends the class of statistics beyond narrow school ways of thinking, for one example I do 'play' with.
And it only stands to reason, that when a child is born, the time of season along with dopamine producing environmental factors like more light in summer, are environmental factors that CAN stimulate potential epigenetic change and different personalities.
It would obviously vary by mileage of course per individual and environment beyond that 'simple' combination of factors per dopamine, light, and epigenetics, and for 'the pattern and visual thinkers to figure out by extensive observation, per the current 'science' of Astrology.
That's one 'simple' answer but the synergy of additional environmental factors for the answers as to why Astrology works, is no easier to pin down, than one cause of Autism
And synchronicity like human archetypes is real.
Science has caught up to the Jungian 'science' of human archetypes, but they just haven't caught up to him yet on his 'science' of synchronicity but truly it is no surprise as science by its very nature stifles what humans can be per FULL HUMAN POTENTIAL motivated by FULL human emotions.
So that is a self-fulfilling prophecy in science itself for the weakness of science to understand this true FULLER potential of human life.
Mechanical cognition represses this human potential, and science has caught up to that, per peer reviewed study, ironically, but the folks who do science and live a life in mostly mechanical cognition, are not immune from the repression of social cognition and associated factors of human empathy and pro-social emotions.
And no I do not expect you to understand this, if you haven't walked in my shoes, but some people will understand it, more likely in the listening audience, than the folks who post here, simply as the forum is skewed toward higher verbal written abilities and lesser toward pattern AND visual thinkers for the obvious reason that it is a text forum.
And yes, recognizing patterns has everything to do with it, along with FULL USE OF human emotion, and not just the con-social kind as synchronicity is of evolutionary benefit to the group that survives together in sharing and cooperation using pro-social emotions.
During the period of five years of my life, where there was no emotion there was absolutely no synchronicity.
Before and after it was beyond the science of statistics per coincidence alone.
People thought the earth was flat too, before science caught up, so it's no surprise that science still lags behind, on the full potential of the human mind. The human mind is still truly a relatively unexplored area of science, not unlike the full 'face' of GOD AKA Mother Nature TRUE.
Perhaps the poets will figure it out first, they most often do, per historical record, as is.
To be clear this is only my opinion, but alas this is Philosophy forum, not a Science forum, and Philosophy does often lead science as well, per historical record.
Life is way too short, to depend on Science alone for answers to live a full and happy life.
That's for sure, and a Yogi can tell you that, for sure, who controls their bodily functions like body temperature, steaming heat off of robes in icy water, and controlling alpha and theta brain waves, without even any bio-feedback machines.
And yes, science has finally measured this, per the scientific method, evidenced as true, and no NOT someone's imagination.
And for all practical intents and purposes, I am a Yogi, as in real documented life; I have gained mastery over my bodily functions as well. I don't own any long pants, not even when the temperatures dip down into the teens, here in North Florida, as I have undomesticated myself, per real true human effect and AFFECT per regulation of brain waves, body temperature, and emotions as well.
If I had waited for science to tell me how to do it, it would have never happened.
I just looked within and found the answers through intuition and instinct, the same as our ancestors did, before they were functionally disabled by complex language and culture.
True story, by the way, that is, as science now shows that folks who live like our pre-historic ancestors have similar morphological stronger features as them per density of bones.
I figured that part out too, and can leg press 810 LBS now at age 54, as opposed to before I healed myself through instinct and intuition, and could not raise my arms up over my head, after eating or walking around the block without almost passing out.
Let's just say, I'm passionate about human potential per much more than science knows now, by evidence of my life for sure, for now at least. :)
12 Nov 2014, 4:00 pm
