The_Walrus wrote:
Wait, you were a gay rights activist in Utah in the 80s, and you think WrongPlanet is lacking in respect?
Do you think WP is particularly bad or just not as good as you'd hope?
Hehe. I guess that I stepped in it there, huh? Well, politics are considerably different in Utah than elsewhere. I learned during the last few decades that Republicans (a.k.a. conservative Mormons) are generally more respectful of their opponents than their Democratic counterparts (a.k.a. anti-Mormons) are of theirs. As a legislative lobbyist, I accomplished much more with the Republican lawmakers than the Democrats. Democrats consider any slight infraction of party protocol (a.k.a. "don't do anything for yourselves, let us protect you,
if and
when we choose") cause for a lifelong sentence to some Old Testament-style shunning. I am still suffering under that silliness after I encouraged more LGBT party involvement and memberships than it ever enjoyed. While I disagree strongly about most aspects of all political parties, I see people as either good or bad regardless of their partisan affiliations. It was that realization that made working (being shunned) among my Democratic Party associates more and more difficult to accommodate.
More generally, Utahns divide themselves socially instead of politically (it IS a one-party state, after all, and distinctions are sought). As such, the LDS Church influences Utahns more than any party ever has, and, because of the work many LGBT activists have accomplished with it, Church leaders encourage, welcome and support their LGBT members. The official Church web site includes a section about LGBT Utahns and its policies about their membership within the Church. Since getting a worldwide legal and moral blackeye over Church financing of the California Prop 8 ballot initiative about marriage equality, Church leaders and policies have been remarkably friendly and supportive, and support LGBT-friendly nondiscrimination laws; much to the consternation of a plurality of anti-gay LDS members. The one, last point of contention within the Church is its opposition to marriage equality. Even there, Church leaders have called on both sides to treat each other fairly and respectfully. It appears that they know they have lost their morality battles since the 1970s, and are choosing a kind of peaceful seperatism over continued provocations.
I just wish the state's Democratic Party would do the same. But, I guess when any group has been defeated for so long, griping about who among themselves are "real" Democrats, and who aren't, is just about the only show in town. Everyone else has simply left the arena. As for Wrong Planet, I see several members choosing to put themselves in much the same position as Utah Democrats have by ridiculing and shunning others who might otherwise concur with them because the others don't apparently match up
exactly to their expections.