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Well, you have said that, and perhaps before coming to such a conclusion it may be just as well to get your facts straight . I think the policy is National Service, not necessarily of a military nature; includes work in the community. I'm not sure about the legal obligation to own a gun, I've never read that anywhere before.

So, if I go and get my ballot paper, and put a x by the BNP, will that make me a bigoted evil fascist?

You know, I'm very tempted, just because I "shouldn't"...

No, I didn't. In fact I very specifically didn't say that

and as for getting my facts straight, I Have ! !!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... 476279.stm

perhaps you should



again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... 476279.stm



No, it would make you a supporter of the BNP.



Are you sure you could look yourself in the mirror if that were the case?

I know I couldn't

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My mistake then, the leader said on TV that they were offering the rifle and ammo to all. I didn't realise it was obligated ownership.

...and a blue-rinsed cuckoo too, by the sound of it.....

Damn Fine Idea!! !

(though make it a BF please)

The tory is not proposing much specific, beyond increased support. vague and imprecise I know.

But she was the only MP in the last parliament to do ANYTHING.

here are links to her website which includes parliamentary speeches on AS

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/A ... eeches.htm

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/A ... 2C264F.htm

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/A ... FDAEE3.htm

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/A ... b3f726.htm

So now you will be able to narrow down where I live to one constituancy

OK neotopian, you've got me on the gun thing. I read through the manifesto: you're correct. It's a new one on me. I did read through their proposals last year, and the obligatory gun ownership was definately not mentioned. As for the National Service, last time I looked there was the option for non-military service; scanning through the manifesto, I can't find anything to corroborate that, now.

Your restraint is most touching, ol' chap.

The national service proposed by this bunch has to be military as it is through this that people would be "trained" to use the assault weapon (not talking rifle or shotgun here) that they would be FORCED to own.

I really do not want to live in that kind of paranoid society

Indeed, that makes sense in the overall context of the information you provided, as opposed to what I previously read. However, if you think about it logically, there must be some mechanism within the proposal to exempt people with certain disabilities. Therefore, we cannot preclude the possibility that some form of community service is an option.

I don't think it's something I'd be too keen on, though it does seem to work in Switzerland.

Last Friday, I had the Local MP, Ben Bradshaw (LAB) at my door.

On every issue I grilled him on. he would never give a straight answer. Instead, he would just say what a worse job the Conservatives or Libdems would do, never about what HIS party would do!

When the heat got too much, he just walked away in order to BS the poor neighbour next door.

Well, I don't enjoy living in a society where only the criminals have guns!

It sounds to me like the BNP could be reformed to create a society similar to what I would consider ideal in the US.

I think some sort of national service would be a good idea, and people shuld be able to own any kind of gun they want (including belt-fed machine guns), but I think forcing someone to own a gun is no better than forcing someone to submit to having a national ID card.

The BNP are very racist, theyre obssessed with immigrants and blaming everything on them.

Unfortunately, the BNP seem to have the most impressive manifesto that would put this country right.

Too bad they are such racist morons blaming every problem in our society on muslims, when the real troublemakers in the UK are home-grown chavs.

I guess any party who adopted their ideas with the racist elements filtered out will be succesfull as I feel the british public have had enough of the mainstream parties.

I think even with the immigration thing filtered out, the UK is too polarised to the left of politics for their proposals to be attractive. We are not a nation of gun-slinging hang-em-high cowboys, that's not part of our cultural identity — more's the pity, I sometimes feel. Neither are we going to swop the complacency fostered by the welfare state, nor the gradual abdication of our personal responsibilty to government, for nationalistic pride coupled with both personal and collective responsibilty. And for every year that passes, such things will seem more like pipe dreams because the current left-liberal policies, though ostensibly about freedom and inclusion, serve only to divide and subjugate.

In fact, the immigration issue is the only reason they are so popular in certain small areas; areas where the indigenous working class feel victimised by both the immigrant culture and the PC doctrines of the mainstream political parties.

The militancy of the UK musllims is known areound the world. Their numbers are growing and their are politically active factions that want to make England an Islamic State. The writing is on the wall that they will be an extremely big problem if it's not addressed soon. All of this is evident from more than 8,000 miles away.

Also, having immigrants taking up jobs that would have gone to the lower class citizens is always a problem unless the economy is in a state of full emloyment. Last of all, how your mainstream parties ever became popular in the first place is beyond me.