What would u do if spouse told u, "honey I'm on Mars 1!"?
On TV they just profiled a lady who is leaving her husband to do this. Maybe her husband should hook up with that^ guy's wife, and on Mars the lady I saw on TV should pair off with that guy who is leaving his wife on Earth.
Stay married, it is not like they could spend money on Mars.
For what it will cost to send a person, then provide habitat, food, paying them would be minor.
Also, Insure that life!
While it may attract attention, sending robots would make more sense.
Robots do not consume on the way there, can live on the surface, and the damaged can be used for parts.
I ask why? It is not a base for reaching farther, there is nothing there, it does not have a magnetic field, nor enough mass to hold an atmosphere.
Far Earth orbit, 30,000 miles, build something big, that can service the satellite belt, gather junk from near Earth orbit, and be a shipyard for building some big deep space explorers. Something with magnetic shielding, gravity, a swimming pool. Something that can produce food, and mine the asteroid belt. Meteors bring Palatinates to Earth, there is a good chance that it was a planet that something hit, so sections of the old core would be heavy metals.
Radioactive elements for heat and power, gold and platinum for industrial use, this mission could pay.
It'll never happen to me, I can't even talk wife Katrina in to going dancing..
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Was in the paper couple of days ago about a Belgian that pulled out. His wife was fine with it but his children didn't want him to leave on a one-way ticket. He was in his fifties. Was also mentioned they are down to a shortlist of 650 applicants iirc.
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If you need to ask that then the whole point is obviously past you.
Its about adventurism, having your name in the history books. If it wasn't for my wife, family and home responsibilities I would have tripped over myself to apply.
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Mars' orbit is just over three light-minutes away from Earth's. Theoretically, you could transmit a message between the two planets in that time. In practice, the planets can be nearly 25 light minutes apart. The message would need to be sent to NASA or whoever, who could then forward it as an email to their family. Very slow conversations.
I believe that typically its actually closer to ten light minutes. At least that was the kind of delay that NASA experienced when controlling the three rovers they sent. Either way conversationalism would be impossible between the planets and there will need to be satellites with significantly superior bandwidth in orbit around Mars before any kind of Earth-Mars 'internet' is feasible. I believe it will happen though.
I am concerned for the individuals that Mars One and Space X are sending though. We aren't talking about hardened astronauts but members of the general public plucked off of the street. Going to Mars carries all kinds of health risks not even faced by professional astronauts, such as greatly increased radiation exposure and hightened risk of muscle atrophy, sterilisation and exposure to cancers. The longer you stay in space the more dangerous it becomes and these people will certainly be breaking the records.
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Mars' orbit is just over three light-minutes away from Earth's. Theoretically, you could transmit a message between the two planets in that time. In practice, the planets can be nearly 25 light minutes apart. The message would need to be sent to NASA or whoever, who could then forward it as an email to their family. Very slow conversations.
I believe that typically its actually closer to ten light minutes. At least that was the kind of delay that NASA experienced when controlling the three rovers they sent. Either way conversationalism would be impossible between the planets and there will need to be satellites with significantly superior bandwidth in orbit around Mars before any kind of Earth-Mars 'internet' is feasible. I believe it will happen though.
I am concerned for the individuals that Mars One and Space X are sending though. We aren't talking about hardened astronauts but members of the general public plucked off of the street. Going to Mars carries all kinds of health risks not even faced by professional astronauts, such as greatly increased radiation exposure and hightened risk of muscle atrophy, sterilisation and exposure to cancers. The longer you stay in space the more dangerous it becomes and these people will certainly be breaking the records.
Then there's the concern about mental health. To say that many could be expected to express "buyers remorse," once they are away from home and loved ones for a significant amount of time, would be an understatement. With growing depression, and the accompanying anger, one or more team members will suffer psychotic breaks, cover their faces with their own feces, and crack open everyone else' skulls for the yummy brains inside.
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yes, the issue with mental health is also a legitimate concern. 100 million km away is not a good place to be getting second thoughts about this kind of mission.
This is why I thought maybe autistics who have Mars as a special interest would be the best sort of individuals to send on the first excursion. I wonder how long the neurotypical brain can maintain the novelty of staring at red rocks and dust for months on end.
Well, I guess that's ONE way to end a bad marriage...
I'm not sure how I'd react to that one.
"You're going to Mars?? I'm happy for you, Honey. I hope it's OK if I take the kids back to WV and make some decisions without consulting you first..."
He's following it with... I don't know what. Fascination?? Envy?? Lust??
I believe that, if the kids and I weren't tying him to Earth, he'd apply for the Mission to Mars.
Goddamn ADHDers. I suppose we need them, or we'd still be sitting in caves roasting stored nuts over our fires (I guess an Aspie might have figured out the fire thing AND taken the risk of using it if it seemed useful enough). I suppose we need them, but I will never understand them.
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Mars doesn't have email as we understand it.
Mars' orbit is just over three light-minutes away from Earth's. Theoretically, you could transmit a message between the two planets in that time. In practice, the planets can be nearly 25 light minutes apart. The message would need to be sent to NASA or whoever, who could then forward it as an email to their family. Very slow conversations.
I imagine it would be a lot like posting in this forum. Conversations that stretch over days/weeks, complete with attachments. And with the right kind of satellites acting as relays, our Martian humans may even get to surf the web, using a kind of caching. They just wouldn't be able to buy off Ebay or get a UPS delivery... well, maybe in time...
Ummm... we already have robots there.
Unless you want to send some terraforming robots... ?
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Mars' orbit is just over three light-minutes away from Earth's. Theoretically, you could transmit a message between the two planets in that time. In practice, the planets can be nearly 25 light minutes apart. The message would need to be sent to NASA or whoever, who could then forward it as an email to their family. Very slow conversations.
I believe that typically its actually closer to ten light minutes. At least that was the kind of delay that NASA experienced when controlling the three rovers they sent. Either way conversationalism would be impossible between the planets and there will need to be satellites with significantly superior bandwidth in orbit around Mars before any kind of Earth-Mars 'internet' is feasible. I believe it will happen though.
I am concerned for the individuals that Mars One and Space X are sending though. We aren't talking about hardened astronauts but members of the general public plucked off of the street. Going to Mars carries all kinds of health risks not even faced by professional astronauts, such as greatly increased radiation exposure and hightened risk of muscle atrophy, sterilisation and exposure to cancers. The longer you stay in space the more dangerous it becomes and these people will certainly be breaking the records.
Then there's the concern about mental health. To say that many could be expected to express "buyers remorse," once they are away from home and loved ones for a significant amount of time, would be an understatement. With growing depression, and the accompanying anger, one or more team members will suffer psychotic breaks, cover their faces with their own feces, and crack open everyone else' skulls for the yummy brains inside.
Might have some good reality TV coming your way and get the chance to decide for yourself which 'contestants' are emotionally up to the job
From the previous selection series, six groups of four are to become full-time employees of the Mars One astronaut corps, after which they are to train for the mission. Whole teams and individuals might be deselected during training if they prove not to be suitable for the mission. Six to ten[citation needed] teams, of four people, are to be selected for seven years of full-time training. It is anticipated that this selection round is planned to run until the end of 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One#R ... ion_period
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Oh good lord. I'm living in a dystopian novel, I swear I am living in a dystopian novel.
"Happy Hunger Games! And may the odds be ever in your favor!!"
Actually off the top of my head, I'm reminded more of The Long Walk (an early short novel of King's).
Or maybe Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Which I did not actually find all that enjoyable-- Dick's style really wasn't up my alley. I only read it twice-- once because it was assigned, and once because it was hanging around the house. But the story and the underlying themes stuck with me. Major English Lit Nerd Moment!! !
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Mars' orbit is just over three light-minutes away from Earth's. Theoretically, you could transmit a message between the two planets in that time. In practice, the planets can be nearly 25 light minutes apart. The message would need to be sent to NASA or whoever, who could then forward it as an email to their family. Very slow conversations.
I believe that typically its actually closer to ten light minutes. At least that was the kind of delay that NASA experienced when controlling the three rovers they sent. Either way conversationalism would be impossible between the planets and there will need to be satellites with significantly superior bandwidth in orbit around Mars before any kind of Earth-Mars 'internet' is feasible. I believe it will happen though.
I am concerned for the individuals that Mars One and Space X are sending though. We aren't talking about hardened astronauts but members of the general public plucked off of the street. Going to Mars carries all kinds of health risks not even faced by professional astronauts, such as greatly increased radiation exposure and hightened risk of muscle atrophy, sterilisation and exposure to cancers. The longer you stay in space the more dangerous it becomes and these people will certainly be breaking the records.
Then there's the concern about mental health. To say that many could be expected to express "buyers remorse," once they are away from home and loved ones for a significant amount of time, would be an understatement. With growing depression, and the accompanying anger, one or more team members will suffer psychotic breaks, cover their faces with their own feces, and crack open everyone else' skulls for the yummy brains inside.
Might have some good reality TV coming your way and get the chance to decide for yourself which 'contestants' are emotionally up to the job
From the previous selection series, six groups of four are to become full-time employees of the Mars One astronaut corps, after which they are to train for the mission. Whole teams and individuals might be deselected during training if they prove not to be suitable for the mission. Six to ten[citation needed] teams, of four people, are to be selected for seven years of full-time training. It is anticipated that this selection round is planned to run until the end of 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One#R ... ion_period
I read they were going to broadcast the Mars odyssey as a reality show otherwise they won't have enough money to fund the mission. Some Dutch company.