Are we headed toward World War 3?
^This. Bankers and financial interests were involved on funding both sides of the world wars. Can you believe certain Jewish owned banks funded Germany during WW2? It's Rockefellers, Goldman Sachs, etc that are set to gain profit and gain territory by another war. They get rich during a war while others die - just so they can get richer, and richer. It's sickening.
^^^ This is the same conspiracy s**t that led to WW2. That is the narrative the Nazis pushed, that Germany was somehow betrayed by Jews, socialists, cosmopolitan citizens who were not German enough and that is why they lost WW1 and got bad peace terms. Dolkstosslegende. It was nonsense then and it is nonsense now. Worrying that these kind of conspiracy theories are so in vogue again. The butthurt against "international bankers" was also in vogue during the 30s just like it is today.
We have very similar situations the decline and rise of imperialist superpowers, crisis withing capitalism and the forming of alliances. What may prevent it is the globalization of capital, yet this may also be another powder keg with the contradiction of global finance and means of production bound with nation states.
One only has to look at what is going on in the Indian ocean to get an idea of the increasing tensions. Just about every major player is jostling for position, getting ready to step in in case the sea routes from the gulf are threatened. China and India are snapping at each other with both rapidly expanding their nava; presence in the area, alongside the US, France, Uk
Here is am interesting report of an article from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (interesting acronym, knew there was I reason I have never liked it)
ASPI
I read this article and was quite surprised. Australia has socialists?
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There are tv shows on here that show the Australian customs people and the border patrols, from that show you'd think the Australians believe WW3 has started already.
Why are you surprised that Australia has Socialists? We've always had them. I consider myself to be one (being poor helps in this regard, for I can experience for myself the exploitation most of us are subjected to by the rich).
We have very similar situations the decline and rise of imperialist superpowers, crisis withing capitalism and the forming of alliances. What may prevent it is the globalization of capital, yet this may also be another powder keg with the contradiction of global finance and means of production bound with nation states.
One only has to look at what is going on in the Indian ocean to get an idea of the increasing tensions. Just about every major player is jostling for position, getting ready to step in in case the sea routes from the gulf are threatened. China and India are snapping at each other with both rapidly expanding their nava; presence in the area, alongside the US, France, Uk
Here is am interesting report of an article from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (interesting acronym, knew there was I reason I have never liked it)
ASPI
I read this article and was quite surprised. Australia has socialists?
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
There are tv shows on here that show the Australian customs people and the border patrols, from that show you'd think the Australians believe WW3 has started already.
Why are you surprised that Australia has Socialists? We've always had them. I consider myself to be one (being poor helps in this regard, for I can experience for myself the exploitation most of us are subjected to by the rich).
It was more of a joke. That article had a real anti-NATO slant, then I saw it was a socialist website. I don't know much of Australian politics, but what I heard was a lot of right wing rhetoric in my opinion. And a lot of anti-immigration paranoia that in Europe would be associated with far right parties. But as I said I don't know much about Australian politics. I did hear they have some fringe "hunters and farmers party" or something, doesn't sound hopeful to me.
I'm not trying to piss on Australia specifically, I live in the Netherlands and we used to have a pedo party a few years ago (seriously).
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I think we very well might be but I can't really predict when. On the other hand, I take everything I say and think about this subject with a grain of salt because most of what I have is a 'feeling of unease/discomfort' about what's happening in the world these days but can't really name THE factor, or THE country that'll spark a war. Besides, I don't follow the news too fanatically and even if I would do so more, it feels as though I'm looking at a projection on a veil, behind which is the 'actual reality' simple people like me don't get to see. As if they pick aspects of the real reality and show them to me and present that as objective and how is just is.
One of the reasons I don't really try to predict stuff usually is because I can reason from the current situation and think of some scenarios, I might even see patterns, but I can't predict world-changing events (for better or for worse) and they can eventually have absolutely huge influence, but it makes any prediction pretty pointless.
Besides that, I see the desire to predict the future as a human way to gain a sense of 'control' and realising that it's what I see as a psychological mechanism rather than anything accurate or sensible I don't really try to do so anymore. On the other hand, the world's really tense right now and/but it can get a lot worse.
If Europe (where I live) enters a world war I fear we might have a civil war as well.
I just hope we widened up enough to not let millions die in a pointless slaughter because we're unable to just discuss who's the most right.
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As much as some religious fundamentalists will love to see that per apocalyptic prophecies of the human world ending, as a self-fulfilling prophecy, World War 3 is NOT GOING TO happen, for obvious reasons.
The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
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The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But don't forget Hitler. He obviously fit he definition of a psychopathic leader following an illusionary totalitarian/racist ideology. And he engaged in a war which eventually led to Germany's almost suicide, and his own real suicide (though doubtlessly, he had never intended for it to end that way).
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The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But don't forget Hitler. He obviously fit he definition of a psychopathic leader following an illusionary totalitarian/racist ideology. And he engaged in a war which eventually led to Germany's almost suicide, and his own real suicide (though doubtlessly, he had never intended for it to end that way).
But no nuclear bombs before Adolph started and insights provided per that reality of losing..
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Most all wars have been started by 'psychopathic' leaders leaders who 'think' they can win.
There are no more world wars like that possible so...
There is no way to win.
And generally speaking, 'psychopathic' folks don't commit suicide.
But of course, there are exceptions to all generalities, including mine here..
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Had not. But I just now googled it.
An aledged "time traveler" from the year 2036 who posted regularly on websites since 2000, and was featured on Art Bell's Coast to Coast. The world war he predicted was supposed to happen already, and it didn't. In fact the USA was supposed to fall apart into five nations by 2015. So I guess Mr. Titor is in the dust bin now.
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If it happens it will be more likely because action-reaction and miscommunication, misreading intent, leaders finding themselves drawn in much deeper then intended then a drawn up plan for world conquest. I think what has people worried are a number situations where this is plausible plus a few psychopathic leader and the increasing religious elements.
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The question is: could the main industrialized powers start fighting each other? The main powers being Russia, the EU, the USA, China, Japan. And emerging industrialized countries like India.
Factions in the third world could slaughter each other to their hearts' delight it wouldn't be "a world war". The current wars in the middle east steal the headlines, but arent likely to cause a world war ( ie a war waged by the superpowers directly against other super powers).
But the current crises in the Ukraine is a possible flash point between powerful industrialized countries: NATO/EU, and the USA, on one hand, and the Putin on the other. Its a territorial dispute right there in Europe. A little undiplomatic diplomacy-and bang- the superpowers could start shooting at each other.
Niether China nor the USA want a war with the other. Both are eager to keep on trading with the other. Conceivably the two Korean tails could wag the two dogs (their respective super power allies). North Korea could invade the South drawing both the US and China in.
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Factions in the third world could slaughter each other to their hearts' delight it wouldn't be "a world war". The current wars in the middle east steal the headlines, but arent likely to cause a world war ( ie a war waged by the superpowers directly against other super powers).
But the current crises in the Ukraine is a possible flash point between powerful industrialized countries: NATO/EU, and the USA, on one hand, and the Putin on the other. Its a territorial dispute right there in Europe. A little undiplomatic diplomacy-and bang- the superpowers could start shooting at each other.
Niether China nor the USA want a war with the other. Both are eager to keep on trading with the other. Conceivably the two Korean tails could wag the two dogs (their respective super power allies). North Korea could invade the South drawing both the US and China in.
If North Korea were to make such a move, I suspect that would be too much for even China. From what I gather from CNN, Kim is really becoming an irritant to his Chinese masters as it is.
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