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20 Jul 2015, 3:43 am

I can say I am not an athiest, not an agnostic and do not follow any monotheistic religion/belief.


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20 Jul 2015, 3:43 am

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Outside of culture and ethnicity, belief systems are not predisposed to any particular demographic, especially not something as arbitrary as neurodevelopmental disorders. There's no connection between autism and religious beliefs (or lack thereof), no more so than you can say that people with brown hair are more likely to be Buddhists.


But people with black hair are more likely to be Buddhists.


False. Of course the highest concentration of Buddhist adherents are in Asia, but it's the cultural and ethnic circumstances which contribute to that, not hair color. Otherwise, all people on Earth with black hair would be most likely to become Buddhists rather than those who would be born in Thailand (the highest percentage of Buddhists).

The point is, something like hair color or autism is inconsequential in regard to religious belief. It's cultural.



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20 Jul 2015, 3:50 am

Unfortunately, The Government IS a Religion, and I do not Subscribe to its Ridiculous-Beliefs in Extortion.


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20 Jul 2015, 8:10 am

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I wonder why every person presupposes that every autistic, whether in the form of classic autism or highly functional like Asperger's syndrome, there must be an atheist. Many think that we are like Vulcans from the Start Trek :-)
Very rational and above all atheists that we are ungodly :(


Firstly, not everyone does... ;)

Many/some think we are like Spock because many on the spectrum are more comfortable with being intellectual/logical than emotional...

Religion is an emotion based philosophy which focuses on faith, emotional comforting and a belief in an intrinsic meaning of life...
I would think most scientists and atheists are more interested in intellectualising/reasoning and objectively observing/testing...

There is also speculation that the lack of "Theory of mind" has something to do with a lesser affinity with theism...

It's still early on this research path, but they have begun to find genes and brain structures that may lead to being both religious and conservative, exactly what we seem to be seeing in the conservative wings of our political parties. A very interesting structure is the amygdala. Within this structure, there are differences that deal with how we process fear at a deep level. Looking at religious fundamentalists and very conservative people, we see substructures in common. It is beginning to look like the more fearful we are, the more religious and the more fundamental our beliefs. This is still being studied, along with other studies. We may have answers sooner than later...



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20 Jul 2015, 9:20 am

I honestly thought after being on AC for a year and a half then coming here, that prob 75% of Aspies were Agnostic or Atheists. This maybe because the Atheists and Agnostics are more verbal than the religious Aspies, Idk. I do know that Aspies are always trying to find the how and why of everything and view things logically which religion is not. I thought that Aspies are probably Atheists and Agnostics because they think logically and scientifically . I still think there is a greater number of Atheists among Aspies.


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20 Jul 2015, 9:38 am

I don't know how other people, aspies or not, view this, but, to me, being "not logical" is a luxury others probably can afford, whereas I most definitely cannot.


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20 Jul 2015, 10:21 am

Agnostic or atheist is not an either-or situation. It is possible not to believe while still aknowledging that you do not know. Hence, agnostic atheist.


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20 Jul 2015, 10:38 am

Whether theist or atheist, there are "gaps" in understanding that we must fill in.

I do not find that either of these beliefs are completely logical. I also find the insinuation that belief in God or following some kind of religion is illogical quite insulting.

I find Christian theology to be inherently consistent. I've done a lot of research about all kinds of religions, and this is where I ended up. My belief in God stems from a logically-constructed philosophical thought process. My Christian beliefs come from an examination and assessments of religions. That's where I'm going to leave it. If someone wants to ask me about it privately, that's fine.

Here's another thing... I know A LOT of people who are religious (primarily Christian) who are NOT conservative politically or economically, so I don't get where this "conservative" gene is coming from, and the idea that it is connected to a religion or "religious gene" or whatever. Some people say that their Christian beliefs PROMOTE a "liberal" political and economic policies. We must also remember that genes do not work independently of each other or the environment, so how can a gene MAKE someone religious? What about people who are religious, but convert to a different religion?



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20 Jul 2015, 10:46 am

Religion, or non-religion, is in the eyes of the beholder.



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20 Jul 2015, 10:48 am

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Religion, or non-religion, is in the eyes of the beholder.


In a lot of ways, this is very true. But some people have found they can be convinced one way or the other, and have changed how they "behold" the world.

It is definitely not hard-and-fast.



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20 Jul 2015, 10:51 am

One could be induced to change one's mind based on a different image which is "beheld."

It could be a solipsistic change, or a change induced by outside events.



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20 Jul 2015, 10:55 am

I've been a Christian for 50 years now andmy observation is that Christian as a whole couldn't care less about poitics. They just do not see politicians as being the people with the great answers to so many problems.



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20 Jul 2015, 11:14 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Agnostic or atheist is not an either-or situation. It is possible not to believe while still aknowledging that you do not know. Hence, agnostic atheist.


Agreed. When it comes to religion, I label myself an agnostic atheist. Religion used to be my special interest, so I’ve given this subject a great deal of thought.

I can be persuaded to believe in a deity of some sort, given a sound argument in favor of said belief, along with solid evidence. Until then, I remain an agnostic atheist.



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20 Jul 2015, 11:37 am

I'm an atheist, and I know many who are very “anti-religion.” I'm not one of those. I definitely will always lash out against acts of violence committed in the name of theology, and anyone who conducts themselves in a manner not befitting the core message of their religion.

Religion has been used to justify some horrific atrocities throughout history – but it's not the root cause of violence and conflict. There have been plenty of atrocities committed that weren't of a religious nature. Take away religion, and we'd still be slaughtering ourselves wholesale. It's just been the most effective tool to subjugate the masses, by those in power, and get them to to their evil bidding.


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20 Jul 2015, 12:54 pm

will you lash out against acts of violence in the name of atheism?
I see atheists talk about killing all religious people. a convert or die attitude. they know what the "truth" is and everyone has to follow it or they are evil and must be gotten rid of.

saying taking your kids to church like you did and your parents did is brainwashing them. well I think people should be able to raise their kids to their families lifestyle, and the kids can decide when they grow up what they want to do. plenty of religious families kids turn atheist and atheist families kids go religious. so I don't see how its any one else s business.

I think for a quite a few people atheism is their religion. you may say its not one but they act like it is. its the only way of life and all must follow it and its their job to convert people to it. so that sounds religious to me. I hate anyone like that. think what you want, believe what you want, but don't force or attack others to do so.



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20 Jul 2015, 12:59 pm

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I think it's interesting they noted "if religious, were more likely to construct their own religious belief systems". There are several posters here who have done just exactly that.


I don't know that I've constructed my own, but more like tried to go back to the original? I certainly don't seem to follow what most Christians believe, and find myself at odds with them and the radical atheists. I have people bashing from both ends and I'm trying to be in the middle thinking everyone else is crazy. It hurts to have atheists bash me as if their belief that God doesn't exist is fact, when they cannot know, and nor can I say for a fact that he does exist. That's why it's called a belief, and why it's taken on faith. We know maybe an atom of the knowledge that exists in the universe, not to mention the entirety of space. How can we claim we know the absolute truth?

I try to follow the bible, and at my church, we study it, go back to the original texts (as original as we have) and try to understand the meanings along with what was cultural significant and how it relates to us today, such as the eating of pig meat and how dangerous it is without the proper cooking techniques. We preach love and tolerance, while being strong in our own faith and holding each other accountable. We welcome everyone and don't care what people wear, as long as they're there. We don't care if homosexuals come in, we welcome everyone. We don't damn people to hell, that's not our job, but we will tell them what the bible says. After that it's between them and God. Not our job to judge, just to show people what the bible says.


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