My views on religion

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Actually, skafather84 is not a Christian. But, to humour your question for my own pleasure, it's called "Tough Love". You know, the kind where your parents smack you over the head with a dictionary and cart you off to disciplinary school for the summer where you are absolutely miserable. Hey, frying in torment for eternity builds character!

I believe it's child abuse to indoctrinate kids into any religion. They have little or no way of objectively assessing the pros and cons and the reasons behind it, and most of them by the time they are adults are not able to leave the religion even when they don't really see why they follow it, because of the intensity of emotional attachment to the religion created through years of indoctrination.

The first few months of becoming an atheist were quite difficult for me because I had to struggle with the remnants of several years of routine on my psyche. I'd often get the urge to pray when things went wrong, just to make me feel better. I gave in the first few times, but afterwards resolved that I was succumbing to an emotional placebo and had to stand up on my own two feet. Now I'm completely self-confident and don't rely on any external help to solve my problems.

Bad logic is what makes seemingly normal people do blatantly(or not-so-blatantly) illogical things, and religion is one of the greatest social promoters of bad logic, and for that I oppose it.

I'm not really interested in arguing at this time; arguing on religious issues, more often than not, gets nowhere. I feel very passionately about the issue, but I've long given up on debating on it, because bad logic takes prevalence in most of the arguments and creates a monumental communication barrier. Just before anyone responds, I'd like to state that this is far from a black-and-white issue; there is a whole lot to consider from the aspects of science ethics and human rights which is too often overlooked.

This post is far from a comprehensive analysis of the issue, and is only intended to give a brief insight into my opinion.

Christan always struck me as a lazy guy. Always left jobs half done and broke his own rules.

I always believed that everything built character, especially suffering. You piqued my interest, care to elaborate with some cutting-edge examples? Though you might need some handpuppets to help garner and transfix my short attention span to the demonstration.

Christan always struck me as a lazy guy. Always left jobs half done and broke his own rules.

Check this out. Evangelism is part of Faith. Sad truth. And it kinda does work. Done right, Christianity does have positive effects. But not in all cases. It doesn't work for everyone because not everyone is built the same. Simple as that.

Religion is just too fascinating for me...ANY kind of religion would grab my attention...They are aesthetically pleasing...Of course, I agree that the fruits of religion can be pretty horrible...and believe me I have tasted my share of its sour fruits...however the religion itself oftentimes has a beauty of its own...the act of worship is very attractive for me...the doctrines, the rituals, the appurtenances...sacred texts, devotional music...but umm...I guess I should try to respond more with my reason than with passion and excitement...However I think I appreciate religions both with my reason and my emotion...

Religious texts make claims about the nature of the universe and humans.

People who believe in these texts are compelled to take them literally. When these start to contradict scientifically established facts I personally get very upset. Furthermore, I don't have a problem with people having opinions different from mine, but I have a serious problem with the kind of thinking that causes people to arrive at their opinions. Religious people are encouraged to believe things on little or no (unbiased) evidence, which I feel is wrong. Not only that, but there is a consistent distortion of facts contradictory to their opinions which occurs in a lot of their debates. We're all AS here, so I don't see the need to mince words. Religious ideas will often fall into a category that can only be described as bad logic. Bad logic has been responsible for a whole lot of problems in social history, and a huge portion of it was bad logic of the religious variation. Bad logic will continue to be a problem in the future until it is comprehensively addressed. I have personally been a victim of religious indoctrination and religious oppression. I believe it's child abuse to indoctrinate kids into any religion. They have little or no way of objectively assessing the pros and cons and the reasons behind it, and most of them by the time they are adults are not able to leave the religion even when they don't really see why they follow it, because of the intensity of emotional attachment to the religion created through years of indoctrination.

The first few months of becoming an atheist were quite difficult for me because I had to struggle with the remnants of several years of routine on my psyche. I'd often get the urge to pray when things went wrong, just to make me feel better. I gave in the first few times, but afterwards resolved that I was succumbing to an emotional placebo and had to stand up on my own two feet. Now I'm completely self-confident and don't rely on any external help to solve my problems. I still have a whole lot of pain to go through because my parents will not take my atheism lightly; they are the perfect example of bad logic effect. For instance, I won't even bother to tell them about my AS; they'll tell me that god made me perfect and I should pray about it. I know they'll say this because when I was younger I tried to tell them that I may have a learning disability (In my early teens I could tell something was wrong) and they told me the exact same thing, not bothering to check, not bothering to ask more, nothing. And they're otherwise intelligent people, too.

Bad logic is what makes seemingly normal people do blatantly(or not-so-blatantly) illogical things, and religion is one of the greatest social promoters of bad logic, and for that I oppose it.

I'm not really interested in arguing at this time; arguing on religious issues, more often than not, gets nowhere. I feel very passionately about the issue, but I've long given up on debating on it, because bad logic takes prevalence in most of the arguments and creates a monumental communication barrier. Just before anyone responds, I'd like to state that this is far from a black-and-white issue; there is a whole lot to consider from the aspects of science ethics and human rights which is too often overlooked.

This post is far from a comprehensive analysis of the issue, and is only intended to give a brief insight into my opinion.

I tried religion. I didn't like what it did to me, and I eventually quit it as I would any unwanted habit. I don't mind religious people as long as they do not become so caught up in it as to disrupt their judgement or negatively affect their behavior toward others. However, I take some offense to those who condemn religious people because, as with any other drug, it's a personal choice as to whether a person uses it. I also take offense to people who attempt to push this habit upon others or inhibit people who are interested in quitting it. As with any other drug, I feel a little sorry for those who feel uncomfortable with religion but seem afflicted with the symptoms of dependency, and I will sometimes take such people under my wing to provide counsel and companionship; sometimes, they ultimately make a personal choice to continue with it, but I will not abide someone's decisions being ruled by a dependency.

I'm lurking. I find this thread amusing.