Wicca or Christianty?

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"If you're a Christian, then Wiccans are evil, devil-worshipping sinners whose souls are going straight to Hell when they die.

If you're a Wiccan, then Christians are stuck-up, self-righteous hypocrites whose souls are doomed to repeat their mistakes in their next lives.

Both are hypocritical belief systems."

no. No. NO. NO! NOOOOOOOOOOO!! !! !


D**n you are so wrong rn. Let's go over this again:

SOME Christians hate Wiccans

SOME Wiccans hate Christians



Anyway to answer the question, there -IS- Christo-wicca, but it's not taken all that seriously.

you can also be a Wiccan and treat Jesus and Mary as the God and Goddess?

You can also be a Christian and practice their version of witchcraft (Christians don't really like calling it that, but it exists, nevertheless).

What about Buddhism? I find it appealing in some ways as a philosophy. Although my knowledge is pretty limited.

I'll never be a Christian, nor a Wiccan.

As long as neither smite me, I won't smite back.

Religion is Faith--and arguing it is futile.

I find it fascinating, though, to read about research into such things as the "historical Jesus," or the "historical Moses."

Although I am agnostic, I would love to be able to see back in time to find out what they were really like.

I'm an agnostic atheist myself. I grew up under a vague belief in God. I lost that belief once I started to think on my own.

However, I do find that many people need religion in order to feel viable and to offset the fear of the Unknown. Arguing it really cuts to the bone--and that's why I don't do it.

Luckily for you there is something called Trinitarian Wicca. A lot of things are expected to naturally contradict each other but then there are things that prove otherwise. While I do not promote religion, am considered irreligious and ignostic, I still care about free will and preferences. So here, check it out: http://christianwicca.org/

I still say look at Hermeticism or at least familiarize yourself with what it is and how it works to understand that it's part of the arc of beliefs between the two idea pools you mentioned.

First of all it might be good to reflect on what your religious/spiritual convictions are, then make a serious study of Wicca and Christianity, and their various branches. Alto based on your user name you should probably stay away from the Dianic wicca, which is basically monotheism with a female god instead of a male one.



But maybe you should expand your horizon a bit by reading this book, where the author gives arguments for polytheism and against monotheism (alto he admits it is possible that people would embrace monotheism because of the arguments he gives), where he draws primarily more Western philosophical traditions.



That was deliberate on part of the early church in order to make the conversion process easier. If you are interested in it you could read this work, which deals how that was done among the Germanic people.

Actually, Christian dogma IS hypocritical. Wicca is stupid for other reasons.

The central flaw of Wicca is that it descends from similar religions that emphasize sorcery. Sorcery is evil because it seeks to place humanity in a position of power over the divine, manipulating the god/goddess to meet one's own demands. If God can be manipulated or controlled, he's not much of a god.

Even if you were to create a Wicca/Christianity hybrid, you're maintaining a faith in Christ for your own salvation while still performing rituals that place human beings in a position of power and authority over God. You can't have it both ways. If God has to bend to man's demands, what need do we have for salvation? If God is all-powerful and all-knowing and Wicca is useless, why practice it?

Catholic here--because I prefer to worship God rather than attributes of creation, and because I already seem like a pretentious douchebag without a deep dive into the mystical woo-woo files.

Hypocrisy requires intent, which is inherent in living beings only. There is nothing hypocritical about "Treat others as you would have them treat you", and Jesus taught against hypocrisy in many of His sermons.

Nice necro-bump, by the way. I thought this thread had died 3 or 4 years ago.

Everyone is a little bit hypocritical. It is a flaw, we all try to do our best, but that's the one thing we can't really fully escape. To borrow your example, "Treat others..." becomes hypocritical once someone imagines they are entitled to special treatment. It really just means that if you love yourself, look after the needs of others so they'll have a good reason to WANT to return the favor. If you really want to fight against hypocrisy, begin by being open about your own nature and stop feeling guilty about it.

This is a moldy oldie.

Four years later I think the only update I'd give it - religious beliefs, whichever system you decide on, is just a system and it's on you to figure out if its helpful or not. Ultimately you're the one framing your life and you have to choose wisely because if you don't you'll end up with something that impinges on your life rather than aiding you in your forward movement in life. It's a variety of lenses and structures you can chose from and at the end of the day yourself have to weigh whether it's worth it.

I don't say that as some kind of born-again materialist or 'consciousness only lives on neurons', I'm not, but at the same time I see no evidence that the universe or anything else that might be looking in at us really cares what we chose to do for a faith so far as we're not jacking other people's lives up with it.

"An it harm none, do what thou wilt."

-Wica in 8 Words-

Sure Beats the Hypocrisy
of the Good Cop Hero Empath Jesus
Forgiving The Enemy Who is Loved as Self as God is Love;

And then Hypocritically
For the Meek Inheriting the Earth
And the Last on Earth, Within, Heaven Now First:

The Bad Cop Villain Jesus
'Narcissist' Returning to Send the Folks
Who Do Not Worship Him as God to Hell;
Trump's almost as 'Bad'; Just not Eternally so.

When i Was 5 Years-Old; i did not have to be a 'Rocket
Scientist' to figure out this
Simple Logic;

in
this Discrepancy.

This IS A Problem with the Whole 'Shooting Match on Fifth Avenue'; It's like the Issue With Abortion;
Taking No Account of actually Doing More Harm to Everyone involved while the Abortion Numbers stay
Relatively the Same; Unsafely as such as they do now in Catholic Mexico where Abortions are illegal and are
as many as there are in Countries where Abortions are Legal and Safe; where there is Less Chance for Permanent
Disabilities; and yes, Death Among Mothers; and of course fewer Dumps of Infants in Dumpsters to suffer more that way;
No Different than Euthanasia; We Treat Our Cats and Dogs More Humanely; Just because of the "Insanity" of 'a God' who
Does
more
Harm
than
Lesser Harm of
course by Human Hands;

No Thanks to Spoon-Fed Instruction away from Love that does the Least Harm;
My Mother Birthed me and Raised me as Love;
That's 'Jesus' enough for me FOR REAL;

THE Good Cop Hero Empath Version at Least;
In (All Stuff Life/Love); One Will Find Dark/Light In/As All (God)

i'm totally sure both Religions Will be Improved out of Concrete Forms of Both.

Well there is Zoroastrianism to consider, it emphasizes good or ethical thoughts, words and deeds. Talking the ones that do allow people in or are willing to talk about its belief systems to people interested. Moralist but has the flexibility that Buddhism or Wicca do and does not demand you believe in whatever to 'go to Heaven'.

Interpretations can range from henotheism to monotheism depending on your take, and they have some concepts that Christianity do.

The most important scriptures are the Gathas (Which comes directly from Zoroaster or his time and forms the core beliefs, fully intact) and Denkard which has some of the canon.

Plus even if you're an atheist there is the philosophy you can follow called 'Zoroastrian rationalism' which kind of has things similar to what humanism teaches in general.

Not telling you to join but putting it out the info.