i am legitimately scared about trump becoming president

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06 Jan 2016, 7:58 am

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Trump doesnt believe a word he says. He knows that a large segment of the population are sheeple with VERY minimal critical thinking skills. He is a showman. Say outrageous bold lies and the sheeple will be mesmerized like deer in a cars head lights.
His nonsense that the sheeple love
1. Immigration is the top issue. When was the last time you got mugged by a Mexican? Do you want to harvest cabbages? Immigration is as important as littering.
2. Build a wall and the Mexicans will pay for it. Ummm DUH Even a moron should see why that is stupid.
3. Drastically increase military funding without raising taxes or increasing the deficit. Violates basic arithmetic.
4. Make it a war against Islam and not ISIS. Trump is willing to put our troops at risk for votes!
Anyway, the average Trump supporter has at most a High School diploma. Trump knows how to make them believe anything.

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06 Jan 2016, 9:05 am

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No one is denying trump supporters of free speech. We are merely saying the obvious, trump supporters lack critical thinking skills. Does diversity include people with spexial needs? YES! Does that mean that we should not try ro educate them? No


Dude, you have a Socialist in the White House in a supposedly free country. Anyone backing Obama is seriously lacking in the critical thinking skills department, Imo.

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06 Jan 2016, 10:02 am

Obama might be many things...but he is not a Socialist.



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06 Jan 2016, 10:07 am

Meh, it's all relative. To a hard-line Republican / Conservative, Mr. Obama is a subversive Muslim Socialist.

To a hard-line Democrat, he's just a place-holder until Ms. Clinton gets elected.

To a Moderate, he's just the same old same-o.


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06 Jan 2016, 10:09 am

Yep....that's my view of Obama--"same-o, same-o."

He might have been left-leaning at the start--but Congress, and pragmatism, pushed him towards the center.



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06 Jan 2016, 10:21 am

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Obama might be many things...but he is not a Socialist.


I like you, Mr. K, but I'm sorry to say that he's got you duped.


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06 Jan 2016, 10:31 am

In Europe, he would lean towards being a Democratic Socialist--but he's not quite there.

I believe his ideology, these days, is one of Pragmatism. He believes in asserting his authority as an Executive--sometimes to an irritating degree.

I believe, in retrospect, that he will be seen as sort of an "average" President by future generations.



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06 Jan 2016, 12:07 pm

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Dude, you have a Socialist in the White House in a supposedly free country. Anyone backing Obama is seriously lacking in the critical thinking skills department, Imo.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/o ... -them-all/


I'm guessing you grew up under cold war propaganda. If anything this is what stupefied American Politics and this legacy lives on.

The US spent years backing all sort of undemocratic regimes an practices and only achieved universal suffrage in the 60s. They made a special case for Communism, yet ignored plenty other undemocratic ideologies an even ailed with them.

I'm far from a socialist, but even I know that social democrats are not incompatible with the idea of a free society or at least not any less so than conservatives who are also quite big on protectionism and social control when is suits them.

A lot of the rhetoric in US politic today has it origin in McCarthyism, and there was an obsession even before this, which had little to do with free society.



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06 Jan 2016, 12:35 pm

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He's not going to get the republican nomination that he needs. This is assuming he actually wants to run and is not just stirring the pot for a while to shake things up. He's nothing more than a monster under the beds of the leftist children and a think of amusement to me for the time being.

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but he isnt what scares me there are plenty of big shots out there like him. what scares me are the people who support him and the idea of him as president.

It's called diversity (dīˈvərsədē). Maybe move to a country where there is no political diversity allowed like North Korea...

Ummm No. We are not talking about banning free speech.

Who said anything about free speech? This is about being able to freely choose ones own political affiliation.

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We are saying what is obvious, trump supporters lack basic critical thinking skills.

They could say the same about Hillary's supporters.

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Does diversity include special needs people. Of course, but that does not mean that we should not try ro teach them.

Calling them, for all intents and purposes, ret*ds will surely win them over. NOT. :roll:
"Special needs". You've got to be sh*****g me.

It's thier belief system and you will no more convert them than they will convert you to theirs. You're not going to enlighten them when they believe you're the one that needs the enlightenment. You're coming off like one of those high handed Baptists out to convert every non-Baptist over so they can be saved and damn them if they won't see the light.
This is what I'm talking about by lack of diversity.


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06 Jan 2016, 4:24 pm

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Trump doesnt believe a word he says. He knows that a large segment of the population are sheeple with VERY minimal critical thinking skills. He is a showman. Say outrageous bold lies and the sheeple will be mesmerized like deer in a cars head lights.
His nonsense that the sheeple love
1. Immigration is the top issue. When was the last time you got mugged by a Mexican?


LOL, is that question some sort of joke? Hispanics are second only to blacks in the US crime statistics.

Take a look at LAPD's most wanted list for example: http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

There are few more more ridiculous spectacles than seeing people like you big up your "critical thinking skills" and calling anyone who disagrees with you "sheeple".

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Do you want to harvest cabbages?


I'd rather harvest cabbages than live around Mexicans, but that's just my personal preference.
If there weren't Mexicans harvesting cabbages in America, someone else would do it.

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Immigration is as important as littering.


Maybe it is if you're anti-white.



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06 Jan 2016, 4:38 pm

nurseangela wrote:
wittgenstein wrote:
WP is messing up!
No one is denying trump supporters of free speech. We are merely saying the obvious, trump supporters lack critical thinking skills. Does diversity include people with spexial needs? YES! Does that mean that we should not try ro educate them? No


Dude, you have a Socialist in the White House in a supposedly free country. Anyone backing Obama is seriously lacking in the critical thinking skills department, Imo.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/o ... -them-all/


Obama isn't even a socialist, and socialism is an economic system, its not contrary to having a free country. A right wing biased web-page does not change that. That article just spews all kinds of rhetoric and complains about liberals this, liberals that whilst failing to ever actually define socialism just like every other one about the Obama's an authoritarian socialist dictator conspiracy. The core tenant of socialism is community/public ownership of the means of production and goods, not demonization of the wealthy for one....no point to even read past that point really.

the core tenant of capitalism is 'profit' and as we can see there is plenty of profit/wealth in this country, most of it in the hands of the very small wealthy elite...giving them disportionate control of resources, means of production and politicians that they can buy. At least a socialist system would attempt to address this problem so the wealthy don't get lives of leisure at the expense of everyone else.

I just don't see how people can read some of this venom, just toxic language directed at the left in its entirety. That is another factor that makes the idea of Trump becoming president scary. I don't want to worry about getting harassed, physically assaulted or killed for being left wing, liberal or agreeing with the basis of socialism. With some of the rhetoric that goes on having a president who would likely encourage it in the name of fighting the evil PC certainly would not mean good things for anyone deemed a problematic 'liberal'. Because don't you know because of liberals and this country is in shambles the republican congress has had no hand in the current state of things whatsoever :roll: ....the good old saintly right wingers will save us all and clean out the 'undesirables' right?


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06 Jan 2016, 6:00 pm

People right now want a businessman in power, because a businessman knows how to make money in what appears to be a failing economy. Unfortunately, and this will come out within months of Trump gaining his presidency, running a government like a business is national socialism. On top of the fact that he only knows how to make money for himself, not for everyone.

We are watching in slow-mo as democracy crumbles to the far right, and America becomes fascist.



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06 Jan 2016, 6:14 pm

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People right now want a businessman in power, because a businessman knows how to make money in what appears to be a failing economy. Unfortunately, and this will come out within months of Trump gaining his presidency, running a government like a business is national socialism. On top of the fact that he only knows how to make money for himself, not for everyone.

We are watching in slow-mo as democracy crumbles to the far right, and America becomes fascist.


I suppose a criminal lawyer like Hillary is better, somebody that cackles about freeing guilty child rapists. Who is this better alternative? You know what Bernie Sanders was before he was a politician? A literal bum! Look it up, the guy never worked a real job in his life. Bernie was a 60s radical that never grew up or entered "the real world", I suppose that is better than being evil incarnate like the Clinton's. Mind you, Sanders only chance at the nomination is if the DOJ indicts Hillary which I sincerely doubt and done at such an inopportune that the DNC can't scramble some other "electable" candidate.

The way this country has been run for decades has been a total disaster, we need change or there won't be a country much longer.



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06 Jan 2016, 6:23 pm

I'm not talking about the other candidates because I don't believe any of them will win. I'm just sure that when Trump becomes president, there will be a short grace period, and then there will be a descent into national socialism, under a less scary-sounding name. Nazism taught us how easy it is to corrupt a democracy. Don't get on any trains.



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06 Jan 2016, 6:58 pm

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People right now want a businessman in power, because a businessman knows how to make money in what appears to be a failing economy. Unfortunately, and this will come out within months of Trump gaining his presidency, running a government like a business is national socialism. On top of the fact that he only knows how to make money for himself, not for everyone.

We are watching in slow-mo as democracy crumbles to the far right, and America becomes fascist.


I suppose a criminal lawyer like Hillary is better, somebody that cackles about freeing guilty child rapists. Who is this better alternative? You know what Bernie Sanders was before he was a politician? A literal bum! Look it up, the guy never worked a real job in his life. Bernie was a 60s radical that never grew up or entered "the real world", I suppose that is better than being evil incarnate like the Clinton's. Mind you, Sanders only chance at the nomination is if the DOJ indicts Hillary which I sincerely doubt and done at such an inopportune that the DNC can't scramble some other "electable" candidate.


The way this country has been run for decades has been a total disaster, we need change or there won't be a country much longer.


It seems he graduated college then participated in some protests and civil rights stuff, then became active in politics and then became a senator in 2006. But what constitutes a 'real job' anyways, has trump had a real job?...Inheriting money and then using it to start businesses, make profit and live a life of leisure without ever actually doing any labor doesn't really sound like any more real of a job than being in politics.


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06 Jan 2016, 7:20 pm

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People right now want a businessman in power, because a businessman knows how to make money in what appears to be a failing economy. Unfortunately, and this will come out within months of Trump gaining his presidency, running a government like a business is national socialism. On top of the fact that he only knows how to make money for himself, not for everyone.

We are watching in slow-mo as democracy crumbles to the far right, and America becomes fascist.


I suppose a criminal lawyer like Hillary is better, somebody that cackles about freeing guilty child rapists. Who is this better alternative? You know what Bernie Sanders was before he was a politician? A literal bum! Look it up, the guy never worked a real job in his life. Bernie was a 60s radical that never grew up or entered "the real world", I suppose that is better than being evil incarnate like the Clinton's. Mind you, Sanders only chance at the nomination is if the DOJ indicts Hillary which I sincerely doubt and done at such an inopportune that the DNC can't scramble some other "electable" candidate.


The way this country has been run for decades has been a total disaster, we need change or there won't be a country much longer.


It seems he graduated college then participated in some protests and civil rights stuff, then became active in politics and then became a senator in 2006. But what constitutes a 'real job' anyways, has trump had a real job?...Inheriting money and then using it to start businesses, make profit and live a life of leisure without ever actually doing any labor doesn't really sound like any more real of a job than being in politics.


Sanders was a perennial candidate like Vermin Supreme that lived in poverty until he finally by some stroke of luck got elected Mayor of Burlington, Vermont in 1981. I believe that was his first paying job, he was almost 40 at that point. Mind you this wasn't just one man's passion either, he had a kid to support during his extended adolescence too.