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28 Feb 2016, 4:51 pm

I've dated feminists--they believed in the "fair is fair"'credo, and that we are human.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:07 pm

Feyokien wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I think it would probably be tough to be with someone who takes themselves too seriously or would get offended at everything you say, I don't think anyone wants to walk around on eggshells. If someone likes you and you like them back, who you get along with, I'm not looking for a perfect ideological twin.

Wrong definition of feminism, once again taking it out on a very small subset minority, if you can even call them a subset and not a different group of people. Feminists just want to be equal. Nothing in that has anything to do with SJW's. How socially conservative or lack of, has nothing to do with Feminism.

I know that, what I said could go for any -ism. Someone like that, feminist or not, wouldn't be someone I'd be interested in spending much time with.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:15 pm

Feyokien wrote:

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Wrong definition or not, I don't really care. Feminists typically want to be equal to men by copying them, and most things that they want to copy disgusts me. I mean, I don't see having as much sex as possible as something I want in a potential partner, and I certainly don't like it when feminists copies the shallowness of NT guys. I don't like it when women behave like men either. I want a partner to be a woman, not a man. I also have no interest in LGBT, which feminists think is so cool.

OTOH, I'm all for women having equal rights as men. I just don't like it when women behave like men.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:22 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I've dated feminists--they believed in the "fair is fair"'credo, and that we are human.

That we are human is mostly speciesism and I really dislike the idea that we humans are special and much better than other species. It typically also carries over to hate for human diversity, as the notion of human uniqueness typically is based on a very narrow definition of what it means to be human.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:32 pm

Hmm, I'd date a girl if I wanted to date them whether they identified as a feminist or not.
i wouldn't however, have a very favourable opinion of them if they do not share a common interest in equality for all people, or are one of those who starts fights in empty rooms.

Note to the guys "white knighting" for feminism in the thread - the comments in the thread have been surprisingly moderate. No need for pointscoring here IMO.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:34 pm

Whatever ism people profess to be in interested in, what they actual believe and crucially how much thought they have put into it is more significant.

It is super easy to identify with a cause, it requires no effort in fact.

There are people who claim to be about freedom, but when you scratch beneath the surface they support views and ideas fundamentally at odd with this.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:35 pm

0_equals_true wrote:

Amen.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:43 pm

You're overdoing it, RDO.

I never said that we humans are superior to other animals.

If we were dogs, I would rather that we emphasize our dogness over our gender/sex.

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28 Feb 2016, 5:57 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

If we were dogs, I would rather that we emphasize our dogness over our gender/sex.

Gender roles exist in dog packs. African wild dogs are the most interesting

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Males and females have separate dominance hierarchies, with the latter usually being led by the oldest female. Males may be led by the oldest male, but these can be supplanted by younger specimens, thus some packs may contain elderly former male pack leaders. The dominant pair typically monopolises breeding.[5] The species differs from most other social species by the fact that males remain in the natal pack, while females disperse (a pattern also found in primates like gorillas, chimpanzees and red colobuses). Furthermore, males in any given pack tend to outnumber females 3:1.[6] Dispersing females will join other packs and evict some of the resident females related to the other pack members, thus preventing inbreeding and allowing the evicted specimens to find new packs of their own and breed.[5] Males rarely disperse, and when they do, they are invariably rejected by other packs already containing males.

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28 Feb 2016, 6:14 pm

Gender roles are universal throughout the Animal Kingdom

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28 Feb 2016, 6:22 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Gender roles are universal throughout the Animal Kingdom

That sentence is ambiguous in meaning. Not sure what you are trying to say.

Gender roles vary greatly in the animal kingdom, there are varying degrees of hierarchy and structure.

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28 Feb 2016, 7:17 pm

I meant that the existence of gender roles, no matter their character, are universal.

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