Trump haters. He'll defeat Hillary.....

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Every poll I've heard on CNN has the guy with the dead orangutan on his head losing to Clinton.
Well, if we have to have the tangerine terror in the White House, at least Trump is better than the Zodiac killer... er... I mean Cruz.

How could you support a murderess and rape apologist like Hillary? The Clinton's are like a real life version of House of Cards.

Was her husband ever convicted of rape? And a murderess (who the rest of us would call a murderer)? Are you talking about the discredited, clearly politically motivated Benghazi bullsh*t? Or is it her involvement in military actions? Because you'd be hard pressed to make that last out to be murder, without also calling every service man or woman who has seen combat murderers, too.

Hillary has a lot of blood on her hands, there is a cemetery in her closet just waiting to be emptied out. She's an evil person that belongs in prison.

Who has she murdered?

And where is the proof?

Aside from her participation in the death of Osama bin Laden, of course.

Where is the 'proof' Bill Cosby did anything? You don't need proof, where there is smoke there is fire trust me. No other candidates have this said about them, only the most unprincipled middle of the road establishment politicians of all time are the victims of this suppose 'vast right wing conspiracy'. It's just nonsense, there are 40 years of scandals behind the Clinton's and Obama doesn't have that. Bernie doesn't have that. Biden doesn't have that. No other candidate in American history has as much dirt on them than the Clinton's, they are completely bought and paid for and they have an absolute choke collar on them or else they'll expose them for what they are. Mind you I do not differentiate Hillary and her husband, two sides of the same dirty coin since they enabled each other. No other candidate or politician in America has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment to the degree of Bill Clinton. He's an absolute creep.

One scandal I thought is particularly interesting is Hillary's one foray into 'cattle futures' which she only did once and never again. She put down $1000 and somehow that magically turned into $100,000 in 10 months and then she never did another trade again. Something smells.

WRONG. Assertions made without related proof have no basis for action. In all criminal cases, the accused is assumed innocent until proven otherwise.

Only in a "Trial by Media" is a person assumed to be guilty by virtue of accusation alone.

If you believe that these celebrities are guilty of what they've been accused of in spite of a lack of supporting evidence, then you have fallen victim to the old Bandwagon effect.

How many people would it take to accuse you of sockpuppetry before the mods ban you?

Is that some sort of threat? Sock puppetry? Get bent, your 'bluntness' is not cute. Who are you accusing me of being? I've posted the same things for years, I've been on PPR longer than almost anyone else on this forum. Maybe I should go around the forum trying to do the mods job for them like you do 24/7. Do you think that's going to 'pay off' one day? I've posted on forums for a long time and there is only one reason people do this and that is because they think they'll rewarded with their own staff spot and e-power. Don't attack me personally with nonsense, please. Don't have anything nice to say to me then don't say it.

You can cry about it but the fact is we don't need proof for people to believe something, there's enough smoke and it's all plausible enough to seriously damage their image if brought to light. There is zero evidence against Bill Cosby except the word of his accusers, do you believe him to be a rapist? Do you agree with Hillary's assertion that all victims of sexual assualt deserve to be heard, believed, and supported? We can start with her and her husband. This stuff is all based much more in reality the smears and outright lies told about Donald Trump. The Clinton's play a dirty game but Trump fights back, he will not allow them to control the race with some bogus issue and ironically enough in the end the worlds of James Carville will ring true because attack Trump all you want but he's talking about relevant issues that resonate. "It's the economy stupid!" That was said in response to the fact that Bubba was a total creep yet voters were somehow not rejecting him and that is because Bill(being a much smarter person and politician than his wife) spoke to relevant issues to the common folk. He was "the man from Hope", they've gone a far way from there making millions and millions just for "speeches".

Hillary's real guilt will be determined soon enough but it doesn't matter, if she doesn't get indicted then it is just ore proof that system is corrupt and that elite are truly above the law. What Hillary did was much much worse than what General David Petreaeus did, he was punished very harshly but he was also seen as potential political rival and someone they'd like to destroy as opposed to an ally to the administration. Regardless, attacking her on these endless scandals is fair game, they talk about all this bogus stuff from Trump's past that you all believe unquestionably of course but then believe Hillary when she says everything she's ever been accused of is part of some "vast right wing conspiracy" is somehow plausible.

Do you think OJ Simpson is innocent of murder? Do you think Casey Anthony did nothing to her child? What do you think happened to baby Gabrielle? They can't prove anything but do you think Elizabeth Johnson is innocent? You can have an opinion one way or another, just because the courts don't get it right or they were able to cover their tracks well enough does not mean they are innocent in the minds of the people. Is that fair, I suppose if they're actually innocent but if they're not then that's the least you can do.

It's all politics in the end, it's about winning and Donald Trump is a winner. Hillary beware.

After a quick Google I see she just made about $600,000 for three speeches for goldman sachs, it seems like a money laundering scheme.ie a way to give her money in exchange for influence.

Personal attack, quoted for posterity.

You've missed the point. If the only means to determine a person's guilt is by the number of people who accuse that person of a crime, then it would be a simple matter to frame anyone you don't like just by getting enough people to make the same accusation.

Mr. Trump failed to prove that Mr. Obama was not a native-born American citizen, despite the number of people who believed the lie. Mr. Obama is still president.

No one has proven that Mrs. Clinton is guilty of murder, despite the number of people who believe the lie. Mrs. Clinton is still in the running for president.

Applying Occam's Razor yields the simple explanation for the lack of evidence against Mrs. Clinton: No such evidence ever existed.

Applying Conspiracy theory yields a more complex explanation: Hillary Clinton is more intelligent than the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service, the IRS, Interpol, and every police department from Arkansas to Washington D.C. - all put together!

Which of these explanations are you going to believe?

You attacked me first, threatening to get me banned is as personal as it gets. I was responding to you, make sure to tell your mods that when you go rat. Isn't playing mod against the rules?

You are ignoring the countless other scandals from the Clinton's, you wouldn't believe the dirt they have on them. How about the boys on the track who were murdered for seeing something they weren't suppose to see coincidentally at the same time they were flying cocaine into Arkansas under Clinton's governorship.

It's endless, the most powerful man in the world is above the law remember that. The Clinton's are worth hundreds of millions of dollars now, they're among the richest ex-presidents in history yet they claimed to be the poorest upon entering the White House. They are corrupt as they come, I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. People can make so many assumptions and accusations at Trump but I've known for almost entire life that the Clinton's were criminals.

I felt the same way between Obama and Mitt Romney.

The choices are always between a giant douche and turd sandwich,

Time for a joke to lighten the mood.

Hillary and Bill stopped at a gas station to fill the car up.The man pumping the gas knew Hillary,had dated her in high school.When they were leaving Bill said,"Hillary,aren't you glad you married me instead of him, you're married to the President."Hillary's response."Bill,if I had married him,he'd be the president now."

I don't like Hill,but I will vote for her over Trump.I really wanted Sanders,but that may not happen.
Shes not a nice person in real life.How do I know? My sister in law worked for Rose law firm.I met Hillary when Bill was campaigning against Frank White,she seems nice enough when you meet her,but she's a barracuda.
One thing I will always remember,I almost spilled my Coke (not the drug lol,but the beverage)on Clinton.

Whitewater did stink to high heaven.

Too bad it wasn't hot coffee.

My question is why? Why would you vote for Hillary over Trump? What is so good about Hillary that makes her better than Trump? I see no upside at all with her, at least with Trump change will come one way or another. Trump is not a criminal, he's obviously a good father, he has good relationships with all his ex-wives, he's not a religious cuckoo, he's not a money manipulator, he's not beholden to the special interests that OWN Hillary Clinton.

Stephen Miller, former aid to Jeff Sessions and not to Trump, gave a rousing speech the other day at rally in Indianapolis that hyped me up. Trump puts the best and brightest around him, I believe that he truly loves this country and wants to WIN WIN WIN! Trump isn't running for president to lose, he doesn't want the title of president, he doesn't want to be someone that drives this country into the ground, his ego will not allow that and I believe would do everything in his power to be best possible president he can be because that is his personality.



Trump's senior policy advisor, not someone you'd expect to be able to control a room like that. He has a bright future, so does Trump's children who all good looking and intelligent. I heard Don Jr talk the other day, these people are sharp sharp sharp and I think it's a great family and brand.

Over here in the UK everyone I have spoken to genuinely thinks Trump swings between being really looney and prospectively a very scary prospect for the world as a POTUS. I am not making this up to support any argument i promise I have not met one person over here who doesn`t think he`s a megalomaniac

The only slight relief is that there realistically is a large majority of sane Americans who will ultimately vote him down.
I even see Republicans voting against him or abstaining.

I would even have Dubya in preference to Trump (that is saying something!) as at least that chimp had advisors ... Trump does not really listen to anyone.

At the moment Trump is gaining a large majority of a significant but small minority who will not ultimately gain enough votes over the US to win.... especially without Republican backing.

Still scares me though because crazy s**t happens in US elections ... remember Bush and the `hanging chads` craziness