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10 May 2016, 9:09 pm

We are a country like any other, we should not be wed ourselves to religious vows of poverty as dictated by some false sense of Christendom. There are many people suffering in this country, our infrastructure is crumbling, our schools are essentially prison indoctrination centers; our founders would of supported Donald Trump because they supported the idea of putting America first and to not entangle ourselves in unmanageable alliances that do not even benefit us. These people coming aren't starving, they're not dying, their country might not be nice but it isn't our responsibility whereas we have a responsibility the people that have built this country. We should have borders, we should have immigration enforcement, I think legal immigrant needs a huge overhaul and we need to change the policy of jus soli just to start. Get rid of jus soli and we don't even need 'The Wall' so much, no more anchor babies and we can send the whole family back now. I've had my own ideas at repatriation, I think it can be done efficiently and humanely.

Hillary is owned by the special interests, Trump is not

Trump is to the left of Hillary on some relevant issues, does your pocketbook and how our country conducts itself overseas concern you? Hillary is the most corporate owned candidate in history, she ran a huge quid pro quo operation of Secretary of State thru the Clinton Foundation and that is just scratching the surface of her corruption. Hillary is running against everything she has every campaigned on, she is completely without principle or ethics blinding by an unquenchable thirst for power and money. The Clinton's were conservative Southern Democrats who who declared they were going to get tough on crime(1994 crime bill) and "end welfare as we know it" and to protect traditional marriage with the DOMA, and lets not forget NAFTA which we've been hearing the giant sucking sounds of money out of this country for 20 years now.



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10 May 2016, 9:10 pm

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If Trump has his way we will end up in a recession. He will also do nothing to reduce debt.


Which candidate will?



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10 May 2016, 10:29 pm

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Why is it wrong or scary to look ahead strategically?


Is that what you call demographic pandering theses days? "Who cares who's the most qualified, we need the candidate who checks the most boxes"? Even Obama thinks that's ridiculous.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-dismis ... om-skokie/


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10 May 2016, 10:43 pm

Jacoby wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
If Trump has his way we will end up in a recession. He will also do nothing to reduce debt.


Which candidate will?


I am planning to vote libertarian. The libertarians will find a way to reduce government spending.



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10 May 2016, 10:47 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
Why is it wrong or scary to look ahead strategically?


Is that what you call demographic pandering theses days? "Who cares who's the most qualified, we need the candidate who checks the most boxes"? Even Obama thinks that's ridiculous.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-dismis ... om-skokie/


It can be pandering, but on the other hand, it might just be smart thinking for future political battles.


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10 May 2016, 10:50 pm

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We are a country like any other, we should not be wed ourselves to religious vows of poverty as dictated by some false sense of Christendom. There are many people suffering in this country, our infrastructure is crumbling, our schools are essentially prison indoctrination centers; our founders would of supported Donald Trump because they supported the idea of putting America first and to not entangle ourselves in unmanageable alliances that do not even benefit us. These people coming aren't starving, they're not dying, their country might not be nice but it isn't our responsibility whereas we have a responsibility the people that have built this country. We should have borders, we should have immigration enforcement, I think legal immigrant needs a huge overhaul and we need to change the policy of jus soli just to start. Get rid of jus soli and we don't even need 'The Wall' so much, no more anchor babies and we can send the whole family back now. I've had my own ideas at repatriation, I think it can be done efficiently and humanely.

Hillary is owned by the special interests, Trump is not

Trump is to the left of Hillary on some relevant issues, does your pocketbook and how our country conducts itself overseas concern you? Hillary is the most corporate owned candidate in history, she ran a huge quid pro quo operation of Secretary of State thru the Clinton Foundation and that is just scratching the surface of her corruption. Hillary is running against everything she has every campaigned on, she is completely without principle or ethics blinding by an unquenchable thirst for power and money. The Clinton's were conservative Southern Democrats who who declared they were going to get tough on crime(1994 crime bill) and "end welfare as we know it" and to protect traditional marriage with the DOMA, and lets not forget NAFTA which we've been hearing the giant sucking sounds of money out of this country for 20 years now.


Syrian refugees certainly are dying if they don't flee. It's always been the American way to welcome those in need, as so many of our own ancestors had been running from someplace else.


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10 May 2016, 11:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
It can be pandering, but on the other hand, it might just be smart thinking for future political battles.


What's the difference? If Trump picks a Latina woman as a running mate, that blunts criticism of him, but does it actually change anything about him other than the optics? I say that as someone who's benefited from a history of interracial dating that does wonders to parry attempts to smear me.


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10 May 2016, 11:54 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
We are a country like any other, we should not be wed ourselves to religious vows of poverty as dictated by some false sense of Christendom. There are many people suffering in this country, our infrastructure is crumbling, our schools are essentially prison indoctrination centers; our founders would of supported Donald Trump because they supported the idea of putting America first and to not entangle ourselves in unmanageable alliances that do not even benefit us. These people coming aren't starving, they're not dying, their country might not be nice but it isn't our responsibility whereas we have a responsibility the people that have built this country. We should have borders, we should have immigration enforcement, I think legal immigrant needs a huge overhaul and we need to change the policy of jus soli just to start. Get rid of jus soli and we don't even need 'The Wall' so much, no more anchor babies and we can send the whole family back now. I've had my own ideas at repatriation, I think it can be done efficiently and humanely.

Hillary is owned by the special interests, Trump is not

Trump is to the left of Hillary on some relevant issues, does your pocketbook and how our country conducts itself overseas concern you? Hillary is the most corporate owned candidate in history, she ran a huge quid pro quo operation of Secretary of State thru the Clinton Foundation and that is just scratching the surface of her corruption. Hillary is running against everything she has every campaigned on, she is completely without principle or ethics blinding by an unquenchable thirst for power and money. The Clinton's were conservative Southern Democrats who who declared they were going to get tough on crime(1994 crime bill) and "end welfare as we know it" and to protect traditional marriage with the DOMA, and lets not forget NAFTA which we've been hearing the giant sucking sounds of money out of this country for 20 years now.


Syrian refugees certainly are dying if they don't flee. It's always been the American way to welcome those in need, as so many of our own ancestors had been running from someplace else.


Like I said, there are some very very rich Arab Gulf states with a lots of open space that can house their own people since they are so rich that they are the ones funding the combatants including ISIS so they should bare this responsibility not us when it can only do us harm. I am worried about this life not the next, sorry.



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11 May 2016, 12:19 am

Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
It can be pandering, but on the other hand, it might just be smart thinking for future political battles.


What's the difference? If Trump picks a Latina woman as a running mate, that blunts criticism of him, but does it actually change anything about him other than the optics? I say that as someone who's benefited from a history of interracial dating that does wonders to parry attempts to smear me.


Well, one significant difference is, the Democrats could just point out that they've had better relations with Latinos and other minorities that the Republicans have had, and that they are all for bringing said minorities into Washington DC, as they are part of their party. Trump, on the other hand, with his lambasting of Latinos, would look like he was simply trying to court the Latino vote with a Token Mexican. Context is everything.


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