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30 Oct 2016, 9:16 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Campin_Cat wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

How can anyone be free without equality?

People create their OWN freedom----for instance, I don't need to be equal to anyone; THAT'S freedom.

If they view you as inferior, they will constantly chisel away at your existence.

Not unless I LET them. If I let what they say, for instance, roll-off-my-back, they will have achieved NOTHING.

What they say is bad enough but that isn't all they will do. It's much more insidious than mere words.

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Absolute freedom is also impossible in a civilised world. It would lead to chaos and anarchy. Lines have to be drawn somewhere (law, governance, order).

Yes, I would agree with that. I wasn't thinking about it, in such broad terms.

(I didn't recognize you----you changed your avatar.)

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30 Oct 2016, 9:43 pm

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i am effectively curbed in my freedom to walk certain places in my neighborhood as I wish to avoid the foul catcalls and threats from the yahoos therein who can't stand the thought that I live among them or that I am alive in the first place.

I've seen you post things like this, before----and, I would give almost ANYTHING, to know why this happens to you. Generally speaking, I don't think I've ever encountered something like this, as an adult. SPECIFICALLY speaking, I've encountered, maybe, a little bit of something like this, as an adult----but, I stood-up for myself, and oftentimes, I ended-up being friends (or, friendLY would better describe it, maybe) with the people who were, like, "picking" on me; in-the-end, it seems they were just testing my moxie.

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30 Oct 2016, 9:46 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:

Yes, I would agree with that. I wasn't thinking about it, in such broad terms.

(I didn't recognize you----you changed your avatar.)

I like to think in the broadest terms.
Just seeing if a picture changes attitude towards my statements.

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30 Oct 2016, 10:04 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Campin_Cat wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Campin_Cat wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

How can anyone be free without equality?

People create their OWN freedom----for instance, I don't need to be equal to anyone; THAT'S freedom.

If they view you as inferior, they will constantly chisel away at your existence.

Not unless I LET them. If I let what they say, for instance, roll-off-my-back, they will have achieved NOTHING.

What they say is bad enough but that isn't all they will do. It's much more insidious than mere words.

As usual, you seem to want to "beat" people over the head, until they agree with you----and, you should know, by now, that that's unlikely to happen with me, where you're concerned. It doesn't make either of us wrong, it just makes us different.
All I attempted to do is explain it's not always limited to words. I guess if you haven't experienced it, it's not easy easy to fathom the anguish. I also notice you distancing yourself from me by the words you chose to respond with. I think we come from two completely different experiences and this leads to misunderstanding and miscommunication. Nothing personal.

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30 Oct 2016, 10:17 pm

auntblabby wrote:

I know what you mean because I've felt this way too many times to count.

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31 Oct 2016, 12:27 pm

TheSpectrum wrote:

Campin_Cat wrote:

Yes, I would agree with that. I wasn't thinking about it, in such broad terms.
(I didn't recognize you----you changed your avatar.)

I like to think in the broadest terms.
Just seeing if a picture changes attitude towards my statements.

I like to think about things in broader terms, as well----like, I like to consider EVERY angle of a situation (in a current event, for example)----but, because there was the word "anyone" in the OP, I thought about how it applied to me, PERSONALLY.

(The PICTURE didn't change my attitude toward your post----the fact that I thought I didn't know you, DID.)

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31 Oct 2016, 12:31 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Campin_Cat wrote:

All I attempted to do is explain it's not always limited to words. I guess if you haven't experienced it, it's not easy easy to fathom the anguish. I also notice you distancing yourself from me by the words you chose to respond with. I think we come from two completely different experiences and this leads to misunderstanding and miscommunication. Nothing personal.

Yes, I am well-aware that it's not always limited to words----I've been beaten-up, PLENTY of times, by bullies, when I was a kid----and, am QUITE aware of the anguish. What I CAN'T fathom, is why someone would continue to put-up with it, as an adult.

I don't know what that sentence means, about me distancing myself from you with the words I chose, so I can't respond to it.

Yes, I think we've had completely different experiences, as well (as it's rare, IMO, for people to experience the EXACT same thing[s], OR to respond to them in the same way, or to learn / not learn, grow / not grow from them in the same way)----but, I didn't come out of a box, like this (with my current philosophy on this subject)----everybody has a threshold for what they're willing to put-up with, and when one reaches theirs, they'll find their backbone; OR, they'll continue to look to other people to give them strength / self-confidence / self-esteem, etc., and then they'll just stay stuck, right where they are; because, one will NEVER find it OUTSIDE of ONESELF.

I feel that misunderstanding and miscommunication happens alot on this site when one wants to feel like their experiences have been worse, than anybody else's----there's, maybe, next-to-ZERO ASDers on this site, who haven't experienced bullying.

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