Trump names white nationalist to top White House position

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17 Nov 2016, 9:53 pm

the lies said about Steve Bannon amount to libel, that's why the ADL backed down and stated "we are not aware of any antisemetic statements made by Steve Bannon" which is obvious since there is none and if you look at his life it's obvious. They fear Bannon because he's a winner, simple as that.

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17 Nov 2016, 9:57 pm

Jacoby wrote:

The histrionics and lies certainly get old, belligerent leftists will find themselves irrelevant while the rest of America rejects them and their hateful anti-democratic politics. Elections have consequences and you lose.

I referenced the National Review. One of my sources was Jonah Goldberg, who is noteworthy for accusing liberals of being fascists. Do you think anybody, who is sufficiently informed on these issues, who is both honest and to the left of Jonah Goldberg would disagree with Jonah Goldberg's stance on this?

Honestly, given that America didn't reject Republicans for their histrionics and lies, or Donald Trump for that matter, I get the feeling you don't consult widely for your viewpoints. I don't think doing a poor job of being the mouthpiece of what you imagine the Republican party is, ends up being a wholesome way for you to morally or intellectually develop. You should try to branch out a bit.

(And note: I don't think Jonah Goldberg really has a strong need to compete with Steve Bannon. I really don't think there is much need to mull around whether the alt-right is racist either. They're pretty open about that.)

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17 Nov 2016, 10:13 pm

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Maybe he'll bring Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, and Sean Hannity on board to fill some of his cabinet positions.

Interesting thought.

Rush Limbaugh, Secretary of the United States Department of Education

That's what I had in mind for Limbaugh. That alone would be worth at least a 15 page thread full of anger, straw men, trolling, ad hominems, and sundry other pleasures. :twisted:

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17 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm

Steve Bannon could go on a lawsuit spree and sue ALL these legitimate outlets for libel. Hell, if he wins, he'll be richer than POTUS.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/ ... inaccurate
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/quotes-from ... trategist/
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/17/s ... /21608468/
http://reverbpress.com/tag/stephen-bann ... t-remarks/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... strategist
http://deadstate.org/glenn-beck-if-amer ... re-racist/
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl ... prejudice/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... hen-bannon
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/po ... .html?_r=0
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/steve-ban ... tionalism/
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/4-reas ... y-adviser/
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/14/ ... annon.html
http://www.newsweek.com/people-organiza ... non-521566
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrul ... .yfYEY69rM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ste ... b63b0d33d7
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/305 ... hite-house
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/top- ... ppearance/
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ ... ppointment
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2755173
http://zfacts.com/trump-alt-right-bigotry
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8 ... ve-bannon/

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17 Nov 2016, 11:39 pm

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I didn't realise we were classifying wife-beaters as winners now.

Hey everybody, smack your wife around some and you can be a winner too! :lol:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/14/steve- ... -violence/

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18 Nov 2016, 12:00 am

Jacoby wrote:

The histrionics and lies certainly get old

They sure do, but "grab them by the p****" scumbags like Trump continue to win elections for some reason :scratch:

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18 Nov 2016, 12:37 am

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He sounds perfect for the job.

He'll help Trump develop plans to round up millions of brown-skin people.
He'll help Trump pick anti-abortion/anti-LGBT SCOTUS justices.
He'll help Trump in kicking poor minorities off of welfare programs

I can't tell if you're just being sarcastic, or if you've just broken out your swastika armband.

Just the straight truth.

Bannon seems very qualified for what Trump intends to do.

-"Donald Trump plans to immediately deport 2 million to 3 million undocumented immigrants"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... mmigrants/

-"Trump’s Potential SCOTUS Pick Has Said Crazy Awful Things About Queer People"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... 512f81176d

- "Trump: "Food stamps should be temporary; not a decade on the dole"
"Apply welfare-to-work to 76 other welfare programs"
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Donald ... overty.htm

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18 Nov 2016, 12:42 am

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Or, when America has buyer's remorse four years from now, we'll be back in the White House.

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18 Nov 2016, 12:52 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

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I can't tell if you're just being sarcastic, or if you've just broken out your swastika armband.

Assuming that you are being serious, you don't have a problem with Trump and his minions like Bannon hurting dark skinned and gay people?

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18 Nov 2016, 1:40 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

I can't tell if you're just being sarcastic, or if you've just broken out your swastika armband.

Assuming that you are being serious, you don't have a problem with Trump and his minions like Bannon hurting dark skinned and gay people?

You appear to be arguing that Trump should hire someone who isn't qualified in the "alt-right" objectives that Trump wants to accomplish?

I see the emotional appeal, however, examination of that logic does not make sense to me.

Trump should hire the best person for the job.

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18 Nov 2016, 2:39 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

I can't tell if you're just being sarcastic, or if you've just broken out your swastika armband.

Assuming that you are being serious, you don't have a problem with Trump and his minions like Bannon hurting dark skinned and gay people?

Sort of like Hitler hiring Heinrich Himmler to carry out the Holocaust for him?
And before you jump on me for comparing Trump to Hitler, if he actually does live up to his and Bannon's rhetoric, then he deserves it.
Please, please tell me you're just f*cking with me, and that you don't want Bannon to be the next Himmler.

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18 Nov 2016, 11:10 am

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When I see all of these Trump appointments, the fist thing that comes to mind is he's appointing the next Rommel, Goering, Hess and Himmler. US-Mexico Wall, Berlin Wall - what's the difference?

Er, you do realise the Berlin Wall wasn’t built by the Nazis, right?

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18 Nov 2016, 11:14 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Already pointed out in another thread that one only has to consult the National Review, a conservative website, to find sufficient evidence that Bannon is up to his guts in White Nationalism:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442189/steve-bannon-trump-administration-alt-right-breitbart-chief-strategist

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/442168/bannon-not-just-conservative

Does that resolve everybody's concerns on sources? I can assure you that having to provide 2 sources is overkill at this point.

Big wow, “liberal” outlets and “conservative” outlets are attacking the same guy. Instead of automatically taking this to mean that their claims are true, perhaps you might instead take it as evidence that maybe these media outlets have certain shared agendas behind their “liberal” and “conservative” facades, agendas that are pushed by singling out public figures and engaging in co-ordinated attacks against them.

What does Bannon being “up to his guts in White Nationalism” even mean anyway? The most either of your articles could say was that Bannon “has provided a forum for people who spend their days photoshopping pictures of conservatives into ovens”. You might as well say the same about Twitter or 4chan. Neither of your articles present any evidence that Bannon actually supports White Nationalism, and if you think they do you either need to learn what White Nationalism is or practice your reading comprehension, or both.

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18 Nov 2016, 11:36 am

redrobin62 wrote:

When I see all of these Trump appointments, the fist thing that comes to mind is he's appointing the next Rommel, Goering, Hess and Himmler. US-Mexico Wall, Berlin Wall - what's the difference?

In all fairness, Rommel was actually a pretty decent guy, and a supremely honorable soldier who just happened to be on the wrong side. In fact, he ended up joining Germany's Anti-Nazi underground, and was forced to commit suicide following the failed bomb attempt on Hitler's life by Anti-Nazi German military and intelligence officers.

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18 Nov 2016, 3:52 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

I can't tell if you're just being sarcastic, or if you've just broken out your swastika armband.

Assuming that you are being serious, you don't have a problem with Trump and his minions like Bannon hurting dark skinned and gay people?

Straight up truth.

Yes, Bannon's fervent beliefs in white nationalism provides him the fortitude to do Trump's dirty work.

A lesser qualified candidate may buckle when having to rip apart illegal families, or cut poor blacks off of welfare, or put hateful people in positions of power.

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18 Nov 2016, 5:45 pm

Is Bannon actually a fervent white nationalist though? Has he said or done anything racist or that would otherwise support the idea that he is a white nationalist?

We need to be careful. What if Trump appoints someone who actually says that he wants Jews rounded up or black people deported? There's a risk that people will become desensitised to criticism of white nationalism if we apply it too liberally.

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