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07 Dec 2016, 10:14 am

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I am not seeing any trigger warnings anywhere on this site, so wasn't aware that was really a widespread thing on this here. That said though I believe the purpose is to let people know if there is particularly disturbing/graphic content so a person who isn't up for that kind of thing can choose not to look at it...at least that is how to use them appropriately.

If one wants trigger warnings for opinions they disagree with, then they are asking too much. Then everyone would have to determine what that persons opinions are to create special trigger warnings whenever they post something that person disagrees with....which would be ridiculous.


There are not specific trigger warnings, but basically the same thing is being done by prohibiting certain topics and setting up protected groups.

There probably should be specific Trigger warnings for this section and Love and Dating :D


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08 Dec 2016, 10:56 am

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There probably should be specific Trigger warnings for this section and Love and Dating


Though I suspect you're joking, some of the misogynistic content in Love and Dating actually can be triggering to people who've experienced sexual assault, sexual abuse, or domestic violence.



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08 Dec 2016, 11:42 am

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There's no way to know what triggers what in which person. A "Graphic Image Warning" might be more appropriate for images or video that the average person would probably consider excessively gross or disturbing. We've actually had people in the PPR forum (and maybe the news forum) claim that the opinions (usually of their enemies) that oppose their opinions sets off "triggers". Really, if someone is that sensitive they should avoid forums that are known to be trigger heavy.


Well I am not sure what the opinions in question were, so not sure if it contained anything that could be seen as a personal attack or if it was more of an over-reaction over simple disagreeing. Suppose I'd have to see this happen for myself.


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08 Dec 2016, 11:49 am

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Sweetleaf wrote:
I am not seeing any trigger warnings anywhere on this site, so wasn't aware that was really a widespread thing on this here. That said though I believe the purpose is to let people know if there is particularly disturbing/graphic content so a person who isn't up for that kind of thing can choose not to look at it...at least that is how to use them appropriately.

If one wants trigger warnings for opinions they disagree with, then they are asking too much. Then everyone would have to determine what that persons opinions are to create special trigger warnings whenever they post something that person disagrees with....which would be ridiculous.


There are not specific trigger warnings, but basically the same thing is being done by prohibiting certain topics and setting up protected groups.

There probably should be specific Trigger warnings for this section and Love and Dating :D


Hmm I wasn't aware there were any protected groups on this site or any kind of groups. Just looked at the home page and cannot see a section for people to form groups...so that's news to me.

Also what topics are prohibited? I have seen specific threads get locked/deleted if people start getting nasty, if it's a troll or a spam bot or a duplicate thread but as far as I know there aren't any topics of conversation that are prohibited.


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08 Dec 2016, 12:31 pm

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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I am not seeing any trigger warnings anywhere on this site, so wasn't aware that was really a widespread thing on this here. That said though I believe the purpose is to let people know if there is particularly disturbing/graphic content so a person who isn't up for that kind of thing can choose not to look at it...at least that is how to use them appropriately.

If one wants trigger warnings for opinions they disagree with, then they are asking too much. Then everyone would have to determine what that persons opinions are to create special trigger warnings whenever they post something that person disagrees with....which would be ridiculous.


There are not specific trigger warnings, but basically the same thing is being done by prohibiting certain topics and setting up protected groups.

There probably should be specific Trigger warnings for this section and Love and Dating :D


Hmm I wasn't aware there were any protected groups on this site or any kind of groups. Just looked at the home page and cannot see a section for people to form groups...so that's news to me.

Also what topics are prohibited? I have seen specific threads get locked/deleted if people start getting nasty, if it's a troll or a spam bot or a duplicate thread but as far as I know there aren't any topics of conversation that are prohibited.


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Protected groups.
The site rules DO protect a few groups. So it is not acceptable to make posts that attack based on (a) gender, (b) race or (c) sexual orientation.
a) So creating sexist threads is not acceptable. It would be acceptable to discuss sexism itself however, for example regarding the glass ceiling in job promotions faced by many women or other social issues associated with sexism.
b) Creating threads attacking black people (or any other colour) is not acceptable. However, it is quite acceptable to discuss issues regarding racial tensions and racism itself. So there would be no problem debating why race riots occurred somewhere, but it would not be acceptable to say that a particular race smells bad or are stupid.
c) Creating threads referring to fa***ts or making offensive remarks about people who are gay, lesbian, queer, transgender etc is not acceptable. It is acceptable to debate sexuality itself and the reasons why some people are not heterosexual. It is also acceptable to talk about gay lifestyles and culture etc, though that is perhaps better done in the LGBT forum.

One final point on these protected groups. While threads can be made discussing "around" sexism, race and sexual orientation, if a member creates a significant number of threads about these topics it may start to look like he has an *agenda* i.e. is pushing the rules a bit too close to the edge attempting to provoke or belittle these groups; in which case moderators will intervene.

Other groups of people.
While it is acceptable to attack and debate beliefs (political, religious etc) it is not acceptable to make generalised attacks on the adherents of those beliefs. It is acceptable to say that Republicanism, Liberalism, Christianity, Islam are stupid but not acceptable to make generalised attacks saying that Republicans, Liberals, Christians or Muslims are morons. You could say that some of these people are stupid because of (reason) but not make generalised attacks on groups of people. Similarly you could not say "Christians are morons" or "Muslims are terrorists" or "People on welfare are bums". Confine your attacks to the beliefs and politics, not the people holding them. The one exception to this is public figures themselves – by the very nature of their roles they are personally open to criticism.

3. The Haven.
The Haven is protected more than any other forum on this site, so if someone is in distress and posts there it is for help and support from other members, not to debate with him/her about their religion or atheism. Trying to persuade an atheist to pray to God or Jesus for support is not appropriate in the Haven, similarly attacking a believers religious views in the Haven is not appropriate either.


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08 Dec 2016, 6:46 pm

Is the OP a troll or sock-puppet or something? This was their one and only post, to make this thread.


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08 Dec 2016, 7:58 pm

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Is the OP a troll


If so, he's not a very good one. :lol:



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08 Dec 2016, 9:01 pm

I've been at a state university for 3 years now and these trigger warnings that many republicans complain and lambaste about don't exist at my university. I'm studying Geology within the college of Liberal Arts and Sciences as well as have had close contact with the schools disability network and the so called insanity that so many criticize does not exist here. The only thing close to "trigger warnings" I've seen are small messages attached to the beginning of emails about sexual assault or rape that has occurred on campus so that those who have experienced those horrific things aren't caught off guard.



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08 Dec 2016, 10:34 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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There's no way to know what triggers what in which person. A "Graphic Image Warning" might be more appropriate for images or video that the average person would probably consider excessively gross or disturbing. We've actually had people in the PPR forum (and maybe the news forum) claim that the opinions (usually of their enemies) that oppose their opinions sets off "triggers". Really, if someone is that sensitive they should avoid forums that are known to be trigger heavy.


Well I am not sure what the opinions in question were, so not sure if it contained anything that could be seen as a personal attack or if it was more of an over-reaction over simple disagreeing. Suppose I'd have to see this happen for myself.

If you're referring to some people claiming that opposing opinions set off triggers I believe it was khaoz or maybe WilliamWDelaney that said it. Khaoz was more recent and had delusions that PPR's non-progressives existed just to torture him, and that those people (I won't mention names :P) were "tithing" the mods to allow it. Can you say "paranoid"?


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08 Dec 2016, 11:35 pm

I'm against trigger warnings for opinions. I think it's important that we face opposing viewpoints. I actually think this is important for society - I think too often bad ideas are left unopposed. I know for me personally, when I have a dumb opinion on something, it's extremely useful if someone can point it out to me and help me understand why it's wrong. Then I'm better off.

That said, I do think there is a place for trigger warnings, most notably in cases of trauma. Especially in academia, sometimes people want to examine violence, whether it's sexual violence, war, etc. If you're going to examine something graphically, it's important to make sure you're not forcing people to relive it. It's actually useful to recognize that this place for trigger warnings exists, because by being clear on what its function is, people can't abuse the concept and take it too far. The fact that I bring up academia is intentional as well, because academia is really the only place where this kind of left wing censorship has any strong influence whatsoever. Outside of academia, social authoritarianism overwhelmingly comes from the right wing, so the fact that "PC culture" is so demonized seems like a political tool. Yes, there are crazy people who try to be controlling, but the fact of the matter is most everyone sees that those people are crazy, and choose not to pay attention to them. They have no real power. The right likes to focus in on these crazy people as a campaign against the left.



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09 Dec 2016, 4:19 am

ramble?

remarked that the most horrid pics come, as a rule of thump, from sjw's, to give weight to whatever!

fascination with images of ..disgusting..,
a patch to hid the shortage of inner-imagination, or an attempt to soil the imaginairy of others?! (shhh...zombietactics)



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09 Dec 2016, 4:40 am

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Now I'd imagine that majority of you don't want to be treated like children right? So why the trigger warnings on the news articles? I almost considered not signing up as the first thing I see is trigger warnings. To me that says that the people in the forum can't take different opinions and struggle to control their own feelings.



Because there are people who suffer trauma so it might bring back old feelings from the past and sometimes things you read might really upset you because you will feel judged and attacked.

It's not about different opinions and being too sensitive and lot of people misuse the word trigger. It does not mean "this is controversial so this might upset you because of different views." It just means it will bring back the old feelings you have from the past and relive it again.


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09 Dec 2016, 5:47 am

The OP has not yet returned to this thread that he started to respond. Indeed he hasnt posted anything else yet anywhere else on WP.

So its safe to say that he is just a troll.

"Trigger warnings" are like anything else in life: too much use is too much, and not enough use is not enough. Not much to the subject.

So let's all move on.



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09 Dec 2016, 8:13 am

traven wrote:
ramble?

remarked that the most horrid pics come, as a rule of thump, from sjw's, to give weight to whatever!

fascination with images of ..disgusting..,
a patch to hid the shortage of inner-imagination, or an attempt to soil the imaginairy of others?! (shhh...zombietactics)

I don't understand what you're trying to say.



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09 Dec 2016, 11:35 am

The bullying threads and the news threads that I start where an autistic person has been abused might be legitamite candidates for trigger warnings. I have not added trigger warnings because I feel the title should be enough for a reader to judge that the thread is harmful for them to read. Should I put trigger warnings on those?


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09 Dec 2016, 12:09 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The bullying threads and the news threads that I start where an autistic person has been abused might be legitamite candidates for trigger warnings. I have not added trigger warnings because I feel the title should be enough for a reader to judge that the thread is harmful for them to read. Should I put trigger warnings on those?

No, I think you're fine. Like you said, people can see the content of the thread just by your title. The right place for a trigger warning might be, say, if you were going to examine the nitty gritty, experiential details of rape, guerrilla warfare, or other detailed accounts of things that may be sources of trauma for people.