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17 May 2007, 5:19 am

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LOL Religious people just don't make sense at all. :P


As I'm sure us atheists don't make sense to them. We have to mutually respect one another though - I'm sure we can all agree on that. Let us keep emotions out of this..such discussion can descend very quickly.



why should i respect them for encouraging and upholding an arcane system of morals and practices with regards to their various cults? i'll sympathize. i'll empathize as best i can....but i refuse to dole out respect like as if it's free and everyone is deserving of it. when it's earned, then i respond in kind. till then....i'll keep the same level of discourse.


take your plea for peace to your congressman and to the islamic fundamentalist antisemites (see: hajj amin al-husseini) that keep the world in a constant state of turmoil and war.



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17 May 2007, 5:38 am

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OK. I will try and respect the religious people.


Thanks Sopho, and if they don't treat you the same then that's their loss. Don't descend to their level; set an example! :D

skafather84 wrote:
Mitch8817 wrote:
Sopho wrote:
LOL Religious people just don't make sense at all. :P


As I'm sure us atheists don't make sense to them. We have to mutually respect one another though - I'm sure we can all agree on that. Let us keep emotions out of this..such discussion can descend very quickly.


why should i respect them for encouraging and upholding an arcane system of morals and practices with regards to their various cults?


Because that is your subjective opinion, as I am sure they will have theirs of you. Who is right? Noone can know - at least not now. That is why we treat eachother with respect in the meantime - plus, it makes communication between the two sides a little bit more effective and efficient.

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take your plea for peace to your congressman and to the islamic fundamentalist antisemites (see: hajj amin al-husseini) that keep the world in a constant state of turmoil and war.


Hardly a plea, more an appeal to common sense. Oh well...


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17 May 2007, 6:42 am

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Do you think it is possible that our universe including God can possibly excist inside of a computer program or nested inside of another entity like in the film The Matrics.


Sure, why not? Nobody has shown me the flow chart nor the code that set it all in motion. Personaly I don't think the human brain can comphrend the over alls. All the blather sounds like human ego to me. I am what I is, it's all good.


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17 May 2007, 6:56 am

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Do you think it is possible that our universe including God can possibly excist inside of a computer program or nested inside of another entity like in the film The Matrics.


Polystom by Adam Roberts is another good example of this sort of thing.



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17 May 2007, 5:01 pm

postpaleo wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
Do you think it is possible that our universe including God can possibly excist inside of a computer program or nested inside of another entity like in the film The Matrics.


Sure, why not? Nobody has shown me the flow chart nor the code that set it all in motion. Personaly I don't think the human brain can comphrend the over alls. All the blather sounds like human ego to me. I am what I is, it's all good.


the code was posted earlier...apparently the universe was programmed using the unix kernel.


Code:
root@universe ~ $ emerge light

Code:
root@universe ~ $ /etc/init.d/lightd start

Letting there be light...                                          [OK]

root@universe ~ $



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17 May 2007, 5:05 pm

Mitch8817 wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Mitch8817 wrote:
Sopho wrote:
LOL Religious people just don't make sense at all. :P


As I'm sure us atheists don't make sense to them. We have to mutually respect one another though - I'm sure we can all agree on that. Let us keep emotions out of this..such discussion can descend very quickly.


why should i respect them for encouraging and upholding an arcane system of morals and practices with regards to their various cults?


Because that is your subjective opinion, as I am sure they will have theirs of you. Who is right? Noone can know - at least not now. That is why we treat eachother with respect in the meantime - plus, it makes communication between the two sides a little bit more effective and efficient.


my subjective opinion is subject to attack and ridicule and endangers my rights and how i will be treated. and, well, i won't be on the defensive any more about it. it's absurd for the group of people saying 'there is no god" to have to try and prove something doesn't exist. it's much easier to prove existence....which the religious people have yet to do. so i hold them to the standard of our legal system....the burden of proof rests on the prosecution, not the defense. i'm saying god didn't do it. the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did do it.

i don't see why i should be a second class citizen when i'm the sane one.



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17 May 2007, 10:29 pm

skafather84 wrote:
postpaleo wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
Do you think it is possible that our universe including God can possibly excist inside of a computer program or nested inside of another entity like in the film The Matrics.


Sure, why not? Nobody has shown me the flow chart nor the code that set it all in motion. Personaly I don't think the human brain can comphrend the over alls. All the blather sounds like human ego to me. I am what I is, it's all good.


the code was posted earlier...apparently the universe was programmed using the unix kernel.


Code:
root@universe ~ $ emerge light

Code:
root@universe ~ $ /etc/init.d/lightd start

Letting there be light...                                          [OK]

root@universe ~ $


Roflmao. Yeah but if it uses the code it must still be there, or did it destroy itself when used? Now if it was, I want to see it rebuild itself and do it all over again. I want to see that flow chart. That's if you go the big bang and the collapse theroy. That's some programer that could do that one.

Can't read that code, that code wasn't around when I did the code thing. Lol, probably forgot how to do the one I knew. I guess dos was around about that time, maybe not. The computers still took up rooms and used tape and punch cards. Gasp!! I'm old.


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18 May 2007, 12:39 am

postpaleo wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
postpaleo wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
Do you think it is possible that our universe including God can possibly excist inside of a computer program or nested inside of another entity like in the film The Matrics.


Sure, why not? Nobody has shown me the flow chart nor the code that set it all in motion. Personaly I don't think the human brain can comphrend the over alls. All the blather sounds like human ego to me. I am what I is, it's all good.


the code was posted earlier...apparently the universe was programmed using the unix kernel.


Code:
root@universe ~ $ emerge light

Code:
root@universe ~ $ /etc/init.d/lightd start

Letting there be light...                                          [OK]

root@universe ~ $


Roflmao. Yeah but if it uses the code it must still be there, or did it destroy itself when used? Now if it was, I want to see it rebuild itself and do it all over again. I want to see that flow chart. That's if you go the big bang and the collapse theroy. That's some programer that could do that one.

Can't read that code, that code wasn't around when I did the code thing. Lol, probably forgot how to do the one I knew. I guess dos was around about that time, maybe not. The computers still took up rooms and used tape and punch cards. Gasp!! I'm old.



punchcards? yeah....you're old. :p


but feel good about it. i always have the feeling i won't get old...not in an arrogant sort of way...but more that i'll just die somehow before then (though, honestly, i'm surprised i've made it to 22...was expecting to be dead before 21).


anyways, with the programming for creation and self-destruction...it isn't that hard...you can even set it up to where you can have a new creation. just set up the code to create, expand, fill with information, then destruct and leave only the initial buliding code that will work with timing code to turn on again after a certain period of time.



law of infinites. everything will happen eventually. michael jackson will become a good person eventually in some iteration of the universe within the infinites.