Israeli Settlments and National Realization

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Yes there was. The British mandate of Palestine. The place was called "Palestine", and it was inhabited by Arabs who were called "Palestinians".



The invasion by European Jewry began as a trickle of settlers around 1900 when the Zionist movement started, intensified after the first world war when the land was taken from the Ottoman Empire to be administered by Britain, and when Britain gave its blessings to the Zionist movement to settle Jews in Palestine.

And then the movement of Jews to Palestine swelled again at the end of the Holocaust and WWII in 1945. And the invasion continues as Palestinians gradually loose land even now.

(There was no consonant, equivalent to our letter "p." As well as sowing some territories with salt, Romans renamed conquered, Jewish land, after their blood enemies, the Philistines. Are these Philistines? So, a contention arises from the very name, before one more word is spoken, from the very first letter, before the word can be enunciated, in it's entirety.)

The IDF evicted Jews, from multi-story apartments, modern infrastructure, farms, and factories --- called settlements -- to make Palestine.

On entering the land, I watched them knifing hoop houses, breaking plumbing, factories, etc, on live, blue-state, network TV. Hapless, Orange County-ish newscasters didn't even know what they were seeing, so kept the camera feed going, for some minutes.

They were later said to be hungry, thirsty, jobless, etc, but menaced the charitable repairmen.

Unarmed (sic) protesters would later throw armed IDF from a 'Freedom Flotilla.'

Jewish interviewers were allowed inside, and treated politely, in spite of antisemitic, children's characters. Ironic answers, when asked where their families came from. They were at least as smart as my highschool classmates, when asked to point at a map... ...except for that they were supposed to say they came from Palestine.

I think both sides have many reasons to hate each other. Looking to past grievances only drags you down. Watching the Israelis and the Palestinians is like watching a cage match. With neither side willing to give up the cage. (I might not either if I lived in the cradle of civilization, on the Mediterranean Sea.) I think the only way to make peace is for both sides to take accountability for their part in perpetuating grievance. Apologize to each other and try to make their visions of the future somehow coalesce.

Believe it or not, many if not most Ashkenazi Jews are genetically more similar to Palestinians than to any group of Europeans. This land, which we were kicked out of hundreds of years ago, is our place of ancestry, and eventually the ancestors of the modern-day Palestinians settled in the parts of Israel where we once were. Now that our race has been persecuted so much, and raped by white people, our pigment has become lighter and people use that as justification to tell us we don't have the right to our home land.

So how do you see a Palestinian Jewish arrangement with regard to the land in the future. You mention being genetically similar; could you one day maintain a State together or live side-by-side?

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that European Jews had become fair colored simply by rape. Especially since maternally, DNA of Ashkenazi Jews is primarily that of European women. Despite forcing Jews into ghettos, and despite self-segregating themselves, Jews and Christians or Pagans in Europe still had had contact, and I believe much of that contact was of a voluntary sexual nature.

Yes there was, it's always been Palestine, unless you view the Bible as a history book? Just because it was under occupation it doesn't mean it wasn't a country and the people weren't real.

I have the test, to prove it.

I actually match one, proposed, Palestinian, genetic type, within the margin of error.

Pardon my formatting.

Romans occupied Israel and renamed the land, after it's original, Philistine, inhabitants.

Not only Israel is afforded a land grant, according to the Bible, but also the descendants of Ishmael, who were legitimately refugees, refused repatriation, into their native countries. 'Palestinians' are also allowed to exist, somewhere.

And you're certain this is true of every Palestinian? sounds kind of like fear mongering that is spread around to keep Isrealies desensitized to the reality of indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians. As long as its believed every Palestinian man, woman, child and unborn baby wants to kill every jew they can get their hands on it's justified.

Its not just terrorists they colonize the land of and bulldoze the homes of, it is largely civilians that suffer from those actions. Nothing will change until Israel quits treating all Palestinians as terrorists, rather than actually going after terrorists and making efforts to do as little damage to possible to civilians.

Yea this attitude of 'Israel can do no wrong and must be protected above all else, thus every action they take should be 100% backed.' needs to go. As well as accusations of antisemitism some people throw around if you so much as criticize anything about Israel.

Some steal corrals and fertilizer, and launch crappy rockets, into kindergartens.

Others are regarded, much in the same light as Mexicans, in our import stores.

Yeah my question is do you think every Palestinian specifically wants to kill as many jews as they get their hands on? Or do you think there are different degrees of dislike/anger towards Israel. I would be willing to bet some Palestinians probably just wish for the conflicts to end while others whilst angry towards Israel for its inhumane treatment of Palestinians don't take it to the extreme of wanting to kill every jew.

Of course I am not saying either side is blameless, obviously violence on the end of Palestinians doesn't help the situation, but perhaps Israel could some discretion when retaliating against the extremists instead of totally way overboard reactions where tons of civilians are indiscriminately killed and its not even clear if they hit any terrorists. or not. Also Israel should probably just quit trying to expand its borders already....how much more 'living space' do the Israeli Jews need.

I mean I'm sorry but if someone fires a makeshift rocket they made at Israel and it does cosmetic damage to a sidewalk and building lets say it is not an appropriate retaliation to go into the area and totally obliterate everything and indiscriminately kill anyone around. Instead they should attempt to go after the person or group who fired the rocket and and only them.

I understand. So, on the milder side, I'm saying they are un-assimilated.



After having purchased what was, in many cases, undesirable land, at exorbitant prices, Israel is now said to occupy 1/6 of one percent of the Mid East land mass. Gave up Samaria, the Temple Mount, and now, 90% of the West Bank.

No talk of Islamist countries repatriating Syrians or Palestinian "refugees."

Do you have any evidence that they occupied 'Israel'?

I'm interested in what's going on now and what we can do now and why we have these problems now.