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25 May 2007, 6:39 pm

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how? build a wall? :roll:


But who will build the wall if you get rid of all the cheap immigrant workers? :)



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25 May 2007, 6:42 pm

hooray its fixed :D . . . . gwenevyn I'm also quite confused :? as to why some white people promote the careless negligent of our borders. The only thing I can come up with is that they're too afraid to be perceived as racist, aahhh I'm still confused. I have some relatives that fled from Russia right-before the 1917 Revolution, and they fled to Guadalupe, Mexico. I visit my relatives frequently and the horror stories they tell me are awful, racism can go both ways. I am very perplexed as to how they're still alive. It's a very dangerous place for different ethnicity's to visit but to live there no thanks lol.I remember when the illegal aliens had a one-day boycott That was great they should have more protests like that lol. It just sickens me how our government is not abiding by the laws of the land or the will of the people.



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25 May 2007, 6:57 pm

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Patrolling the border is easy. The border was secure up until about the mid 1980’s. It was the amnesty and lax enforcement that caused the invasion. Mexicans knew they just had to get past the border patrol and they would be home free. Much, much less than .1% of illegal aliens ever get deported. During this same time frame the border patrol has effectively been stood down. They are diverted to quite areas or sometimes ordered to harass the Minuteman volunteers. The so called “rights” of aliens trying to sneak across the border has been so elevated that using effective force can cost a Border Agent his job and even his freedom. There have been recent cases of US border guards being convicted and imprisoned for shooting in self defense against armed illegal aliens.

America possesses sufficient resources to stop illegal immigration now. There is plenty of law enforcement to round them up and if the Border Agents are given orders to shoot on sight the border problem will disappear almost overnight. Playing catch and release is a hopeless strategy. It’s the ethnic lobby and the business interests that keep the flood gates open to the third-world. The problem is the political agenda, not resources or geography.


There is an excellent documentary online that tells the story of the Minuteman Project. It’s called “The Line in the Sand”.

View trailer for The Line in the Sand
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snvGBDGU0s[/youtube]
The full movie is over 90 min. long and can be viewed on Google video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=145




hmmm....okay maybe border patrol could work with changes in policy of dealing with immigrants....and maybe a shoot on sight policy. deny medical care to illegal immigrants and enforce strict labor laws with regards to those who hire illegals.


i'm all about immigration....but this illegal garbage and no filter on who comes in....no thanks. my great great grandparents immigrated here the legal way, mexicans can do it too.



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25 May 2007, 6:59 pm

Elemental wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
how? build a wall? :roll:


But who will build the wall if you get rid of all the cheap immigrant workers? :)
The government should hire legal American citizens to do the job, cheap or not. We shouldn't be outsourcing jobs to illegals in the first place.



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25 May 2007, 7:00 pm

TheResistance wrote:
Elemental wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
how? build a wall? :roll:


But who will build the wall if you get rid of all the cheap immigrant workers? :)
The government should hire legal American citizens to do the job, cheap or not. We shouldn't be outsourcing jobs to illegals in the first place.


i've seen arguments that say that outsourcing and hiring illegals is what has lead to our big ecnomic boom. i'm not entirely sure i buy into that train of thought...it seems kinda more like an illusion of having a strong economy by having everyone else do your work for you.



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25 May 2007, 7:03 pm

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I'm also quite confused :? as to why some white people promote the careless negligent of our borders. The only thing I can come up with is that they're too afraid to be perceived as racist...


I think you've hit one of the many nails on the head, right there.

Another major reason is because the pro-illegal side of the debate tends to use misleading and dishonest terms in their arguments. For example, the use of the term "undocumented workers" instead of ILLEGAL workers. Basically everything they say is designed to create the illusion among the masses that illegal isn't really illegal--just misunderstood and trod upon. And this tactic is working. Popular opinion in my region of the country is decidedly pro-illegal.

There have even been protests at attempts to deport illegal immigrants who have been convicted of violent crimes. :roll: Due to new legal precedents in my state, wife beating, child abuse and murder threats are no longer "violent enough" under the state law to get a conditional or illegal alien deported for being convicted of such a crime. Moreover, the police and ICE (the guys in charge of following through with immigration law) are legally barred from working together. I personally know of a situation in which a deportable alien was released from jail before ICE was informed of his conviction, meaning that the criminal was given time to disappear (and to further harass and threaten his victim) before he could be deported. This is not an uncommon event and is completely due to the pro-illegal hysteria created by the media and certain "civil rights" groups.

Meanwhile, the local Hispanic radio stations and periodicals are regularly publishing/broadcasting racist rants against non-Latinos (I know, because I speak Spanish). Go figure.



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27 May 2007, 5:03 pm

gwenevyn wrote:
TheResistance wrote:
I'm also quite confused :? as to why some white people promote the careless negligent of our borders. The only thing I can come up with is that they're too afraid to be perceived as racist...


I think you've hit one of the many nails on the head, right there.

Another major reason is because the pro-illegal side of the debate tends to use misleading and dishonest terms in their arguments. For example, the use of the term "undocumented workers" instead of ILLEGAL workers. Basically everything they say is designed to create the illusion among the masses that illegal isn't really illegal--just misunderstood and trod upon. And this tactic is working. Popular opinion in my region of the country is decidedly pro-illegal.

There have even been protests at attempts to deport illegal immigrants who have been convicted of violent crimes. :roll: Due to new legal precedents in my state, wife beating, child abuse and murder threats are no longer "violent enough" under the state law to get a conditional or illegal alien deported for being convicted of such a crime. Moreover, the police and ICE (the guys in charge of following through with immigration law) are legally barred from working together. I personally know of a situation in which a deportable alien was released from jail before ICE was informed of his conviction, meaning that the criminal was given time to disappear (and to further harass and threaten his victim) before he could be deported. This is not an uncommon event and is completely due to the pro-illegal hysteria created by the media and certain "civil rights" groups.

Meanwhile, the local Hispanic radio stations and periodicals are regularly publishing/broadcasting racist rants against non-Latinos (I know, because I speak Spanish). Go figure.
HMmm it sounds like your part of the country is not hit as drastically as hard with illegals as to where I live .These pro- illegal cheerleaders types should take a little field trip to East La, and then maybe they would actually have a stance against illegal immigration. Yes I am fully aware of the common use of those dishonest terms. My local news stations are sooo gung ho on trying to make the terms "immigrants" and "illegal aliens" interchangeably when they mean two entirely different things! It seems that our judicial systems are increasingly in favor of the lawbreakers. Just look at the two recently convicted US border patrol agents the two agents were sentenced to prison 11-12 years! For shooting a suspected armed drug-smuggler in the butt :lol: as he fled across the frontier .the U.S. government even filed charges against them after giving full immunity to the drug-smuggler and paying for his medical treatment at an El Paso hospital. Isn’t that insane I’ll try to find the full story it gets even more ridiculous. I thought that you would get a huge laugh out of this site http://deletetheborder.org/?q=node/196 "towards a global network of movements against borders" :roll:



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27 May 2007, 5:50 pm

skafather84 [quote] my great great grandparents immigrated here the legal way, mexicans can do it too". NOOO! that's crazy talk :wink: . But then again why should they do it the legal way when no ones really enforcing our laws. And while they're at it they can take advantage of America's education system, its hospital care, it's Social Security system and its generous welfare system. No ones really stopping them how are they supposed to know its wrong and spongy [/sarcasm]



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27 May 2007, 7:15 pm

INVASION USA
Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily
Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total
U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103



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27 May 2007, 10:58 pm

Mexican flag raised over post office in Maywood, CA.

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Sunday May 27, 2007

Illegal aliens take down the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag :x[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y721T9nX0k[/youtube] Save Our State members cheer as Maywood PD moves in to attempt to remove the Mexican flag.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOkFD3W4ac[/youtube]