Dear Real Conservatives: What is the new battle plan?

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14 Jun 2017, 3:28 pm

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Since when has Alex Jones been considered a traditional conservative?

He is devoted to the Bible and the Constitution. He is certainly a traditional conservative.


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14 Jun 2017, 4:10 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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Since when has Alex Jones been considered a traditional conservative?

He is devoted to the Bible and the Constitution. He is certainly a traditional conservative.


That includes a lot of people. Most Americans uphold the constitution.

It was partly Christian Conservatives that brought in probation.Social Conservative can be interventionist.

I don't even think he thinks of himself as a traditional conservative.

He is a hack who make a lot of money out of his conspiracy show, and he plays at being a libertarian with conservative values.



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14 Jun 2017, 4:12 pm

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Billionaires don't tend to spend their money altruistically.

LOLOLOL How do you think they GET some of those tax cuts----Hello?








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14 Jun 2017, 4:23 pm

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This thread has been disappointing so far.

Why----cuz not enough people are jumping-on the "U.S. Conservatives are BEYOND stupid" bandwagon, with ya?








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14 Jun 2017, 4:41 pm

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Billionaires don't tend to spend their money altruistically.

LOLOLOL How do you think they GET some of those tax cuts----Hello?

They lobby for tax cuts of course. Don't be so naïve.

Another Thing: Purple text is hard to read. It's impossible for me to take you seriously as an intellectual.


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14 Jun 2017, 5:52 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Billionaires don't tend to spend their money altruistically.

LOLOLOL How do you think they GET some of those tax cuts----Hello?

They lobby for tax cuts of course. Don't be so naïve.

Another Thing: Purple text is hard to read. It's impossible for me to take you seriously as an intellectual.

I'm not talking about lobbying, I'm talking about how many of 'em start foundations for charity, so they can receive tax cuts----like, so many of the celebrities do, who are mostly DEMOCRATS, I might add.




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14 Jun 2017, 8:17 pm

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The billionaires I know of are all described as philanthropists. But it's not like I've gone down the whole list. But at the same time I can see them wanting to keep up with the likes of Gates and Buffett, just for the sake of bragging rights if nothing else. Plus I'm sure they get big write offs for it.


It's difficult to really characterize billionaires in this day and age because you have a mix of old money and new money, old economy and new economy, and that makes for a very diverse group of people. A lot of billionaires do give a lot of money to various causes, but the most fruitful thing a billionaire can do with their money is to usually create many jobs that can "perpetually" pay living wages. Unfortunately though, there are few very rich individuals with the mindset of Henry Ford.

Billionaires excel at amassing wealth...that's how they became billionaires, and when they do not adjust their habits at a certain point, they become malignant, and a drain on the economy and standard of living, rather than a benefit to it. I submit as an example, Walmart. Walmart effectively monopolized small town economies, replacing often higher paying jobs at mom and pop shops, with their lower paying jobs, the employees of which often have to supplement their income with government assistance.

From a business perspective, this is great. Walmart spends less money on employment, leaving more money for shareholders. From a standard of living and economics perspective, this is horrible, and many claims about economics and standard of living break down.



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14 Jun 2017, 8:51 pm

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My guess is the conservatives will continue sitting back watching the liberals continuing to go bananas over Trump 24/7 for the next 7.5 years.

Seriously?

You are implying that conservatives are just trolls who have no real moral principles or ideals.


No that's you putting words in my mouth. I'm saying I think conservatives are simply not into all the hyperbole, sensationalism, paranoia and the like.

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There are plenty of who want to be taken seriously even thought they never take anyone else seriously. I don't think that all conservatives are like this, but many conservatives (especially internet conservatives) are like this.


Well considering liberals are now going around the internet accusing a lot them of being Russian spies....


Seriously? Conservatives are the most hysterical people on the internet!

"Barrack Obama is a Muslim communist who wants to exterminate white people!"

"The Chinese made up global warming!"

"All Muslims want to rape every women that they see!"

"Charles Darwin was Hitler!"

"Anders Breivik was not a Nazi because he killed Nazis."
- Jonah Goldberg actually said this.


The difference I see is the extreme proliferation of liberal hysteria, which has greatly eclipsed conservative hysteria.



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14 Jun 2017, 8:59 pm

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The difference I see is the extreme proliferation of liberal hysteria, which has greatly eclipsed conservative hysteria.


Oh, really?



Have you seen a "Liberal" get hysterical over mustard?



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14 Jun 2017, 9:28 pm

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EzraS wrote:
The difference I see is the extreme proliferation of liberal hysteria, which has greatly eclipsed conservative hysteria.


Oh, really?



Have you seen a "Liberal" get hysterical over mustard?


No but I've seen them get hysterical over ice cream.



And how about all the hysteria over a simple typo?



The left has way eclipsed the right regarding this sort of thing in a very short amount of time.



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14 Jun 2017, 11:21 pm

Chronos wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The billionaires I know of are all described as philanthropists. But it's not like I've gone down the whole list. But at the same time I can see them wanting to keep up with the likes of Gates and Buffett, just for the sake of bragging rights if nothing else. Plus I'm sure they get big write offs for it.


It's difficult to really characterize billionaires in this day and age because you have a mix of old money and new money, old economy and new economy, and that makes for a very diverse group of people. A lot of billionaires do give a lot of money to various causes, but the most fruitful thing a billionaire can do with their money is to usually create many jobs that can "perpetually" pay living wages. Unfortunately though, there are few very rich individuals with the mindset of Henry Ford.

Billionaires excel at amassing wealth...that's how they became billionaires, and when they do not adjust their habits at a certain point, they become malignant, and a drain on the economy and standard of living, rather than a benefit to it. I submit as an example, Walmart. Walmart effectively monopolized small town economies, replacing often higher paying jobs at mom and pop shops, with their lower paying jobs, the employees of which often have to supplement their income with government assistance.

From a business perspective, this is great. Walmart spends less money on employment, leaving more money for shareholders. From a standard of living and economics perspective, this is horrible, and many claims about economics and standard of living break down.

This is why capitalism is great.

Lower prices raise the standard of living of all.

The Walmart workers can quit anytime they want.

So, it's a win for everyone, except the unproductive businesses you mentioned.

However, Amazon is going into the grocery delivery business (FEDEX, drone delivery) so Walmart isn't safe. From a productivity standpoint, in the internet age, having huge stores might be a mistake.

If Walmart goes out of business, we don't want to lament the loss of jobs, just because something superior came along. We should be thankful.



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15 Jun 2017, 7:21 am

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I'm not going to side with anyone who wants to give billionaires another tax cut.

Who's the "we" you're referring to, in the OP?

It's a good thing you're a Canadian, then, and don't have to worry-about (or, "side-with" / not side-with) ANYONE / anything, in the U.S.----and, don't have to give it, another thought.

It's interesting..... I'm thinking if we Americans slammed another country / another's leaders, etc. as much / often as non-Americans slam US, we'd get ridiculed / denigrated six ways, from Sunday----AND, probably by EVERY single other country, that is represented, here, on WP----BUT, let practically every country represented on WP, slam the U.S., and that's TOTALLY acceptable, it seems. What's wrong with this picture?


Are you seriously calling me Canadian as an insult?

Go back to 4chan.


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15 Jun 2017, 7:42 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I'm not going to side with anyone who wants to give billionaires another tax cut.

Who's the "we" you're referring to, in the OP?

It's a good thing you're a Canadian, then, and don't have to worry-about (or, "side-with" / not side-with) ANYONE / anything, in the U.S.----and, don't have to give it, another thought.

It's interesting..... I'm thinking if we Americans slammed another country / another's leaders, etc. as much / often as non-Americans slam US, we'd get ridiculed / denigrated six ways, from Sunday----AND, probably by EVERY single other country, that is represented, here, on WP----BUT, let practically every country represented on WP, slam the U.S., and that's TOTALLY acceptable, it seems. What's wrong with this picture?


Are you seriously calling me Canadian as an insult?

Go back to 4chan.


You have a real talent for putting words in peoples mouths.



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15 Jun 2017, 8:51 am

Scarecrow, I'm thinking yet another incarnation, is in order, as this one isn't any more intelligent, than the others----and, just as full of himself----and to think, you were a teenager, then, and it seems you haven't learned a thing, since.

Here's the thing..... You are not anywhere even CLOSE to being the first person to come on this site, who, presumably, thought they were special, because everybody in their little, in-person world, has told them so (because mostly everybody in their little world is NTs, who, generally speaking, don't put nearly the same amount of time, it seems, into studying / research, etc., and so they think we're super smart / "special")----but, when they get here, they find-out, that they're not so special, afterall, cuz everybody here has done as much (if not MORE) studying / research, etc. 'Course, there ARE those, like yourself, who choose to keep the dream alive, in their OWN mind (that they're special), no matter how many people tell them, differently (as many people, on here, have told you, for MANY years, now). Like I've said to others, on here, before: "Your ego lead you, to where your pride keeps you" (aka, stagnant / not growing).

I'm quite done with this part of the conversation, with you.





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15 Jun 2017, 10:26 am

Many of them sold out for power and jumped aboard the Trump Train having a good idea that what has happened was going to happen but hoping against hope it was not going to be "so bad". There is nothing for them to do now but live what they preach, which is take the consequences for bad decisions. Actually, in this case, it was bad decision after bad decision spurred at first by the same wrong belief the progressives had, the Trump candidacy was a joke then when they realized that was not working hoping that they could modify Trump to become more "presidential".


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15 Jun 2017, 12:10 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
My guess is the conservatives will continue sitting back watching the liberals continuing to go bananas over Trump 24/7 for the next 7.5 years.

Seriously?

You are implying that conservatives are just trolls who have no real moral principles or ideals.


No that's you putting words in my mouth. I'm saying I think conservatives are simply not into all the hyperbole, sensationalism, paranoia and the like.

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
There are plenty of who want to be taken seriously even thought they never take anyone else seriously. I don't think that all conservatives are like this, but many conservatives (especially internet conservatives) are like this.


Well considering liberals are now going around the internet accusing a lot them of being Russian spies....


Seriously? Conservatives are the most hysterical people on the internet!

"Barrack Obama is a Muslim communist who wants to exterminate white people!"

"The Chinese made up global warming!"

"All Muslims want to rape every women that they see!"

"Charles Darwin was Hitler!"

"Anders Breivik was not a Nazi because he killed Nazis."
- Jonah Goldberg actually said this.

This thread has been disappointing so far. Aren't conservatives supposed to glorify simple folk who live in the American Heartland and praise Jesus Christ? All I can see here is a bunch of people who are worshipping bankers and other sociopathic economic parasites.

My God, you're an idiot. Show me any mainstream, public conservative who believes these things. You're more hysterical than all conservatives on this board. Again, my God.