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06 Mar 2018, 4:11 am

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I used to own a Tec 9 in 9mm Caliber with an extended mag. It was mostly a curiosity to me and just something unusual to own and take to the gun range.

I eventually sold it because going through 9mm ammo fast with this thing was expensive.

I'll also add my opinion that if guns like this were banned because of recent tragedies, I would accept the ban. In the future if I wanted a home defense weapon, I would be content to own a basic pump shotgun. I don't need to own semi-auto weapons.

Oh please! :roll:

If I were going to go on a killing rampage I'd much rather use a good 12 gauge pump with 00 buckshot and rifled slugs than some goofy Tech 9.

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I'll also add my opinion that if guns like this were banned because of recent tragedies, I would accept the ban.

Yeah, I'm sure you would...

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06 Mar 2018, 4:40 am

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I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees....but I wouldnt expect you to understand that.

I'd rather be kind than randomly insult others... but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

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06 Mar 2018, 4:53 am

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I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees....but I wouldnt expect you to understand that.

I'd rather be kind than randomly insult others... but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

That was hardly and insult by Raptor standards.
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06 Mar 2018, 5:04 am

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I don't want a gun but I call for the UK's gun laws to be much relaxed over decades - that will be the endpoint for liberty and must be voted on by the public in successive referendums. This will coincide with the promotion of personal responsibility and a pride in family and community; ...

I'm not sure I get the connection here. I can see how gun ownership might be liberating to an individual, but I can't see the advantage to society, since gun violence would likely increase with increased levels of ownership.

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06 Mar 2018, 5:09 am

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The idea is that society is well-ordered and there is little disorder or violence. I believe strongly in personal freedom but prospective gun- owners are profiled and go through checks. So the guns are left outside the pub.

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09 Mar 2018, 12:06 pm

I'm ethically vegetarian and used to work as a Democratic organizer, but I enjoy shooting targets.

After the Snowden leaks hit the press, there was a letter to the editor in my local paper by a liberal tech worker who said (roughly) 'I have no interest in gun control until the government proves that it can be trusted. Ask me again in 30 years.'

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09 Mar 2018, 12:15 pm

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I hear a lot of Americans say its protection from the government when I first heard this I thought it was silly but when I think about it here in the UK people are arrested for saying something mean on twitter and we have the government ignoring rape gangs maybe if politicians thought there was a reasonable risk of being killed when they take away our rights they wouldn't do it.

Your post reminded me on an aunt and uncle of mine who are prime examples of that: She's a healthcare executive who enjoys bullying underlings and random customer service workers; he's a socially aggressive Yale grad who uses his Corvette as a weapon to threaten people every time he goes out for a drive. Both of them are VEHEMENTLY opposed to guns.

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09 Mar 2018, 5:23 pm

I'm a hillbilly----it's how we roll. There's not a house of my generation of the family that doesn't contain at least one gun (most have several)----and, quite a few of the next generation of my family has them. I've been shooting since I was about 8y.o., and owned my first gun since I was around 12.

Not all countries have gun ownership in their Constitution, we DO; and I will always support that.

There's a difference between the culture of someone, like me, who was raised with guns, and the culture of people who all they know about guns, is the devastation some mentally ill people have caused with them. I understand it being difficult to understand a culture to which one has never been exposed----but, I don't know if I'll ever understand people (not you - I don't know you; just people, in general) who don't try to understand / consider the differences.

Motor vehicles have been driven into crowds, killing / injuring many----nobody blamed the motor vehicles, they blamed the individual driving the vehicle. Pressure cookers have been used to injure / kill people----nobody asked for the banning of pressure cookers, because they were to blame; they blamed the individuals..... Why doesn't the same hold-true with guns?

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09 Mar 2018, 6:49 pm

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Motor vehicles have been driven into crowds, killing / injuring many----nobody blamed the motor vehicles, they blamed the individual driving the vehicle. Pressure cookers have been used to injure / kill people----nobody asked for the banning of pressure cookers, because they were to blame; they blamed the individuals..... Why doesn't the same hold-true with guns?[/b][/color]

Butt gunz wer dizined 2 cil pepl only old fat wite gize compens8ing 4 havin litle dix want gunz al gunz shood b taken away gunz r 4 trolz and bulleez just sayin

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09 Mar 2018, 7:34 pm

And we should allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons.

Nukes don't kill people, people kill people.

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09 Mar 2018, 7:50 pm

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Butt gunz wer dizined 2 cil pepl only old fat wite gize compens8ing 4 havin litle dix want gunz al gunz shood b taken away gunz r 4 trolz and bulleez just sayin

LOLOLOLOL I needed that laugh----it's been so depressing around here, for sooooo long.....

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09 Mar 2018, 8:16 pm

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Butt gunz wer dizined 2 cil pepl only old fat wite gize compens8ing 4 havin litle dix want gunz al gunz shood b taken away gunz r 4 trolz and bulleez just sayin

LOLOLOLOL I needed that laugh----it's been so depressing around here, for sooooo long.....

Glad you liked it.

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09 Mar 2018, 8:20 pm

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And we should allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons.

Ours are bigger.
To disallow them to have nukes will mean going to war with them.

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Nukes don't kill people, people kill people.

Pretty much, since launching them takes some human involvement.

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09 Mar 2018, 8:36 pm

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Ours are bigger.
To disallow them to have nukes will mean going to war with them.

Allowing them to have them means the same thing.

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Pretty much, since launching them takes some human involvement.

And letting certain evil people access to weapons of mass destruction makes it so much easier. Of course, since I believe in "freedom," we should do away with sanctions against certain countries in regards to serious weapons, because, who are we to say that these people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves the way they see fit!

Freedom!!

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09 Mar 2018, 10:11 pm

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And yet it didn’t. With that logic millions should die every day by guns in America. But only 10,000 ish are killed by guns a year that includes defensive and cop deaths.

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09 Mar 2018, 10:45 pm

You'd think it would be clearer that guns invoke a false sense of superiority going by some of the posts here. I'm not knocking the people who enjoy the engineering or shooting targets but guns don't automatically protect anyone from others with guns. Keeping guns to be the 'last one standing' is absurd & we all ultimately know it.

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