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16 Apr 2018, 4:55 am

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Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.


Golly what are you doing here? According to DarthMetaKnight he manipulated you into getting yourself banned.



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16 Apr 2018, 5:03 am

It seems likely most people who are capable of gainful employment are also capable of seperating their online persona from their professional demeanor.

Also just because someone posts stuff a left-winger doesn't like, that doesn't automatically make them a nazi troll or a russian spy - even though it's convenient to label them as such.



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16 Apr 2018, 5:25 am

They may be unemployed. There are other options:
- They're self-employed.
- Their employers are racists, too, and their attitude is actually a plus.
- They hide their views from their employers. After all, you need to eat in order to fight for your cause, whichever this is.


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16 Apr 2018, 5:27 am

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It seems likely most people who are capable of gainful employment are also capable of seperating their online persona from their professional demeanor.

Also just because someone posts stuff a left-winger doesn't like, that doesn't automatically make them a nazi troll or a russian spy - even though it's convenient to label them as such.

Yeah, but it’s hard to do. A lot of conservatives HAVE gotten fired because of politically themed social media activity.



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16 Apr 2018, 12:22 pm

EzraS wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.


Golly what are you doing here? According to DarthMetaKnight he manipulated you into getting yourself banned.


Oh I did get a temporary ban for no specific reason, but DMK gives himself too much credit as a manipulator. Of course, by admitting to being a manipulator he has admitted to being a troll himself since manipulation is the essence of trollery.

While I'm sure the groundwork is being laid for a permanent ban, I will still be here but under a different IP address, different username, and different online personality so you won't recognize me. The groundwork for that has already been laid, too.
I don't take getting f****d lying down.


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16 Apr 2018, 12:33 pm

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Also just because someone posts stuff a left-winger doesn't like, that doesn't automatically make them a nazi troll or a russian spy - even though it's convenient to label them as such.


Here it does make someone a troll, though. It's always been this way but it's been really over the top since they lost the election to Trump. The goal is to run off all non-progressive WP users by any means possible (e.g. trolling, starting flame baiting threads, reporting people over petty issues, etc...).


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16 Apr 2018, 12:34 pm

Raptor wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.


Golly what are you doing here? According to DarthMetaKnight he manipulated you into getting yourself banned.


Oh I did get a temporary ban for no specific reason, but DMK gives himself too much credit as a manipulator. Of course, by admitting to being a manipulator he has admitted to being a troll himself since manipulation is the essence of trollery.

While I'm sure the groundwork is being laid for a permanent ban, I will still be here but under a different IP address, different username, and different online personality so you won't recognize me. The groundwork for that has already been laid, too.
I don't take getting f****d lying down.

I feel you. I’ve got some hate spreading around me atm. I handle it by avoiding protected classes and reporting the haters when necessary. Trying to bully someone into violating TOS when they aren’t allowed to defend themselves is itself a violation. I won’t hesitate going to mods when that happens.

I used to feel doing that was just being a PAB, but it has become vital to my continued existence here.



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16 Apr 2018, 12:58 pm

[quote="AngelRho]Conservatives are less likely to be unemployed, or they hold jobs that don’t allow them the time for that sort of thing.[/quote]

In my business the big wheels and other key personnel are conservative and don't have time or won't take the time for going off and participating in rabble rousing.


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16 Apr 2018, 1:24 pm

More of them SHOULD, but mostly we just don’t have time for it.

I’m in education. The full-timers accumulate paid sick, personal, and vaycay. You just fill out the requisite form and you’re gold.

Just try to avoid the TV cameras and you’ll be fine.

I think a lot of them are homeless and mentally ill getting paid by Soros to wear pink hats and carry signs. Just my opinion.



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16 Apr 2018, 4:03 pm

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More of them SHOULD, but mostly we just don’t have time for it.

I’m in education. The full-timers accumulate paid sick, personal, and vaycay. You just fill out the requisite form and you’re gold.

Just try to avoid the TV cameras and you’ll be fine.

I think a lot of them are homeless and mentally ill getting paid by Soros to wear pink hats and carry signs. Just my opinion.


The notion that Soros is paying left wing protesters has been discredited, as participants have been interviewed. The left can after all produce grassroots movements as much as the right. As for the protesters coming from the ranks of the mentally ill or homeless: again, protesters have been interviewed, and what we know is, these are housewives, mothers, students, etc.
Soros has been turned into the right's bogeyman. But the thing about the bogeyman is, he aint real. Neither is the fictitious personas invented by the right for not only Soros, but also Obama, Mueller, etc.


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16 Apr 2018, 4:17 pm

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More of them SHOULD, but mostly we just don’t have time for it.

I’m in education. The full-timers accumulate paid sick, personal, and vaycay. You just fill out the requisite form and you’re gold.

Just try to avoid the TV cameras and you’ll be fine.

I think a lot of them are homeless and mentally ill getting paid by Soros to wear pink hats and carry signs. Just my opinion.


The notion that Soros is paying left wing protesters has been discredited, as participants have been interviewed. The left can after all produce grassroots movements as much as the right. As for the protesters coming from the ranks of the mentally ill or homeless: again, protesters have been interviewed, and what we know is, these are housewives, mothers, students, etc.
Soros has been turned into the right's bogeyman. But the thing about the bogeyman is, he aint real. Neither is the fictitious personas invented by the right for not only Soros, but also Obama, Mueller, etc.

First, I don’t assume the left to be honest.

Second, people who want to influence others through money can work through local organizations to funnel it where they want it to go. Those would be people who don’t really care where the money comes from, much less want to actually know.



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16 Apr 2018, 4:19 pm

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More of them SHOULD, but mostly we just don’t have time for it.

I’m in education. The full-timers accumulate paid sick, personal, and vaycay. You just fill out the requisite form and you’re gold.

Just try to avoid the TV cameras and you’ll be fine.

I think a lot of them are homeless and mentally ill getting paid by Soros to wear pink hats and carry signs. Just my opinion.


The notion that Soros is paying left wing protesters has been discredited, as participants have been interviewed. The left can after all produce grassroots movements as much as the right. As for the protesters coming from the ranks of the mentally ill or homeless: again, protesters have been interviewed, and what we know is, these are housewives, mothers, students, etc.
Soros has been turned into the right's bogeyman. But the thing about the bogeyman is, he aint real. Neither is the fictitious personas invented by the right for not only Soros, but also Obama, Mueller, etc.

First, I don’t assume the left to be honest.

Second, people who want to influence others through money can work through local organizations to funnel it where they want it to go. Those would be people who don’t really care where the money comes from, much less want to actually know.


What makes the right more honest than the left?


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18 Apr 2018, 12:59 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Raptor wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.


Golly what are you doing here? According to DarthMetaKnight he manipulated you into getting yourself banned.


Oh I did get a temporary ban for no specific reason, but DMK gives himself too much credit as a manipulator. Of course, by admitting to being a manipulator he has admitted to being a troll himself since manipulation is the essence of trollery.

While I'm sure the groundwork is being laid for a permanent ban, I will still be here but under a different IP address, different username, and different online personality so you won't recognize me. The groundwork for that has already been laid, too.
I don't take getting f****d lying down.

I feel you. I’ve got some hate spreading around me atm. I handle it by avoiding protected classes and reporting the haters when necessary. Trying to bully someone into violating TOS when they aren’t allowed to defend themselves is itself a violation. I won’t hesitate going to mods when that happens.

I used to feel doing that was just being a PAB, but it has become vital to my continued existence here.


The trolls can troll and try to bully all they want, I find that amusing. What get's old with me is the mods playing favorites and it's been this way since I've been here.


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18 Apr 2018, 4:31 pm

Raptor wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Raptor wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Raptor wrote:
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Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.


Golly what are you doing here? According to DarthMetaKnight he manipulated you into getting yourself banned.


Oh I did get a temporary ban for no specific reason, but DMK gives himself too much credit as a manipulator. Of course, by admitting to being a manipulator he has admitted to being a troll himself since manipulation is the essence of trollery.

While I'm sure the groundwork is being laid for a permanent ban, I will still be here but under a different IP address, different username, and different online personality so you won't recognize me. The groundwork for that has already been laid, too.
I don't take getting f****d lying down.

I feel you. I’ve got some hate spreading around me atm. I handle it by avoiding protected classes and reporting the haters when necessary. Trying to bully someone into violating TOS when they aren’t allowed to defend themselves is itself a violation. I won’t hesitate going to mods when that happens.

I used to feel doing that was just being a PAB, but it has become vital to my continued existence here.


The trolls can troll and try to bully all they want, I find that amusing. What get's old with me is the mods playing favorites and it's been this way since I've been here.

They do. And mods are human and biased and make mistakes. And it seems to me most aspies on WP favor leftist ideology, and why that is isn’t really worth going into right now.

It took me a while to figure it out, but it’s all a game to them. The users, not the mods. I dunno, maybe the mods, too. I sounded off about it once and had a mod, and I’m serious when I say this, no sarcasm, gently counsel me on how to broach certain abrasive topics. Before that, I was sideswiped when a mod dropped the hammer on me more than once until I figured out someone I was debating was playing underhanded and dirty.

That’s when I started learning that it works both ways. The left on WP is not allowed to offend any more than the right. If someone says something and rules don’t allow you to defend yourself or your views, have a mod shut it down. I’m not in the habit of doing that, but I very recently had someone harass me out in the open. It would be just as wrong for me to be someone or something I’m not, and I’m not going to change my views if I’m right, and I’m not going to lie about it. So I just politely say, “I can’t discuss that, but I can discuss THIS...” and hope that’s the end of it. If not, that’s what mods are for, and I’ve never had a problem since.



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19 Apr 2018, 11:33 am

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Also just because someone posts stuff a left-winger doesn't like, that doesn't automatically make them a nazi troll or a russian spy - even though it's convenient to label them as such.

Yeah, I got my 2nd warning recently, this time for being a "NAZI" promoting "white supremacy".

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What I find weird is the behaviors of other users.

Several times, "leftie" users accuse me of "not having emotion".

Of course, I have "flat affect" all my life. All my life my parents would tell me "smile more". I would think this would be a big part your life if you have an ASD.

If you have "flat affect", it's not simply facial expressions; it's like part of your emotional system is blunted.


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Yeah, I got my 2nd warning recently for being a "NAZI" promoting "white supremacy".


That's because you were promoting white supremacy.

You argued that inventions=intelligence. In response, me and TFoB pointed out that misogynists use the same argument. You, predictably, chickened out.

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Several times, "leftie" users accuse me of "not having emotion".

Of course, I have "flat affect" all my life. All my life my parents would tell me "smile more". I would think this would be a big part your life if you have an ASD.

If you have "flat affect", it's not simply facial expressions; it's like part of your emotional system is blunted.


Well ... I don't think that anyone should face discrimination because of their flat affect. I also understand the difference between a flat affect and sociopathy.

As far as I can remember, I never accused you of being emotionless, nor did I ever degrade you using ableist language. It's easier to just point out all of the lies and misinformation in your arguments.


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