SJWs are ruining the Neurodiversity Movement

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Look at all this straw!

You may be correct in some cases; but yes, there really are some people who take social issues too far, as well as people who try to solve non-existent problems and change definitions to suit their own hostile agendas (if they even knew the real definitions were in the first place). Unfortunately, the stereotype of the enraged, overweight, purple-haired, female reactionary has become the popular image of Social Justice Warriorhood is firmly entrenched everywhere -- strawman/strawwoman or not, it's out there.

Fortunately, the SJW phenomenon seems to have peaked sometime around 2016 to 2017. I haven't seen any SJW-types picketing religious institutions since then, and even the most liberal of college campuses seem to have quieted down.

It's called 'Satire', young padawan. It addresses the very stereotype you so vehemently decry. Of course, in every stereotype, some truth can be found.

I have about 100 other descriptive lines, taken from sources like butt-hurt gamerboy websites and Trumpster blogs...

I think SJW is a term those on the political right love to use out of a desire to proudly flaunt their ignorance .

Maybe not to flaunt their ignorance so much as to flaunt their freedom from political correctness.

You can create stereotypes of any group or side, like put the SJWs up against anti-SJWs that are Nazis like those of the Charlottesville riots, who post Pepe the frog, and do everything to own the left as they hold misogynist views of women or other races being inferior. Maybe throw in something like a white polo shirt or a MAGA hat in there. Perhaps a strawman, but there are such people.

Is this what you mean?

The thing is that such people usually have their own form of political correctness, which if they break would see them shunned by their community.



Exactly. The problematic elements people focus on for defining an SJW are hardly unique to one side of political discourse.

I have had a problem with the war against social warriors ever since I was called one during Gamer Gate when I simply said that perhaps attacking a woman based only on what her ex-boyfriend said, is not a very good way to handle things. How the movement was supposedly about journalism, but seemed an awful lot like targets were mostly women, and issues were things like accusations of sexual favours.

I guess I could be called more progressive than most . Due to my Asperger's and mental health problems it's not easy to put that into practice .

I do donate to charities , finances permitting . Especially homeless charities and ones for mental health research . I sign petitions , which some might, cynically, say are about as useful as putting out a house fire with a child's water pistol .

I don't see all conservatives as all bad , but that label could rightly be used for many current conservatives compared to when Tory paternalism was a major force in the Tory party . Noblesse oblige was far more preferable to the nasty,selfish and somewhat sociopath tendencies of more than a few of the current crop of Tories .

You might be an SJW if
- Believe that being born white automatically makes you racist, being born male makes you a misogynist etc
- Believe that all prejudice is racism
- Believe Hate Speech is not Free Speech
- You are an offense archivist (spend hours on the internet finding questionable statements of persons living or dead)
- Advocate getting any person you believe committed a microaggression no matter how long ago no platformed or cancelled
- Accuse people of being Nazis or fascists way way too much
- Ask the moderators to ban this thread

You may be an Autism Justice Warrior if
- You derail every conversation by correcting people who use "person with autism"
- Think anybody who says any negative thing about autism is an ableist eugenicist
- Hyperfocus on the bad or inaccurate part of every media autistic portrayal
- Think only autistics should portray autistics
- Are offended by all jokes about autism


You may be using SJW as a straw man if
- If you accuse every social justice activist, progressive, or liberal of being an SJW

As common as unicorns!

Actually in real offline you never encounter either SJWs nor do you encounter folks mentioning the subject of SJWs.

Niether SJWs nor folks who speak endlessly about hating SJWs exist in real offline life in my experience.

I have encouontered an occasional person who goes overboard with political correctness online, and supposedly some corners of the Net do have many SJWs. And folks complaining about SJWs are certainly VERY common on the Net. So SJWs must be common somewhere in cyberspace.

I suppose that omething about the anonymity of writing text on the Net brings out either one or the other impulse: the impulse to BE a judgemental SJW, or the resentment against that group.

I meet them (SJWs) around college campuses (especially Berkeley), and in some ethnic neighborhoods undergoing 'gentrification'. I've met only one in the business world and maybe one or two in the Navy (both likely just SJW wannabes).

The ones I've met fit the general profile -- women ... marching and carrying signs, shouting slogans ... to them, anything a man might say is 'mansplaining', wealthy people are all oppressors, capitalism is the root of all evil ("Profit is Theft"), white people are all racist, et cetera.

Otherwise, they didn't have any unique 'look' from other people. You wouldn't know if they were SJWs or not until they started pontificating. I think they do it for the attention ("Look at me; I'm woke!").

The Social Justice Activists I've met, however, were to busy actually doing something to talk about it. They were doing things like giving free medical check-ups at homeless shelters, tutoring kids who were homeless or 'at risk', taking censuses in homeless encampments, driving the elderly to their doctors, supporting DNA vindication programs, and so forth.

There are dumploads more SJAs than SJWs, but the SJWs seem to get more attention. Wassup widdat?

It just wouldn't be as much fun to complain about SJAs.

I very much enjoyed and agree with the SJW descriptions by Fnord and APOM.

I agree the movement has become a slippery slope. But that was bound to happen. We don’t have expanded categories of red haired people because most people don’t put meaningful values on hair color. We DO have expanded categories of race, gender identity, and neurodiversity because benefits and disadvantages can be attributed to those groups.

I have been reading about the idea that mental illness does not exist, because there is no definitive, observable, mental state of normal.

I think it depends on the scope of your view. Autism is a normal variation if you look at enough people. But if you only have a small sample, it’s easy to say that the majority of the group has this kind of brain activity or structure and the “different” ones do not. But even then, with no cause I’m not sure how it can be said to be a malfunction.

What?!  A mental-health professional agrees with me?



It's usually the other way around ... thanks!

The original poster doesn't even have much to say about SJWs. Her complaint seems to be that folks she calls SJWs use the word "neurodiverse" to mean just that: all possible variants in how brains can be wired (like adhd, or willaims syndrome and tourettes as well as autism). That rather than how she wants the term to be used which is to only apply to aspies/autistics. Not really sure what her complaint is exactly.

I thought she was gonna talk about this "person first" stuff. How some folks insist on calling us "persons with autism" rather than "autistics" which is indeed a seeming unnecessary amount of political correctness that might well be holding back the neurodiversity movement, and could be blamed on folks who might be called "SJWs".