DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A RACIST! And I got the RECEIPTS to prov

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03 Sep 2019, 1:31 am

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I am not certain how much is racist or how much has had racism applied to it.

Was Obama being born in Kenya because of his skin color or because his father was Kenyan? It seems like location and nationality could not have been a factor. The only factor was skin color.

Why weren't all Muslim contries like Indonesia banned if it was only about skin color?

Why do those who say "s**thole" contries is racist while at the same time describing those same countries as being horrible places full of criminals?

Was saying Ilhan Omar should go back where she came from based on skin color or because she came to the US from another country?

I mean did Trump ever specify skin color in these and other instances, or did others apply skin color?

Has there ever a time when Trump has ever said anything about skin color? The only instance I know of is the rumor of a supposed secret tape where he supposedly said the "N word".


Trump damn well knew Obama was born in America. He jumped on the birther bandwagon because he knew he could connect with racial hatred directed at Obama. And say, even if Obama had been born in Kenya, the fact that his mother was an American would have automatically made him an American as well, but you'll never hear that from Trump or any other birther.


In other words, Trump was "playing politics".
Oh Lordy!
Who would have thought a politician would stoop to playing politics. :mrgreen:


Plenty of politicians can get rough and dirty without causing perhaps irreparable harm to America by appealing to the ugliest instincts of part of the electorate. Playing up to the racism of your base has long term effects that Trump could care less about, and doesn't have the intellectual abilities to even be concerned about.


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03 Sep 2019, 2:18 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I am not certain how much is racist or how much has had racism applied to it.

Was Obama being born in Kenya because of his skin color or because his father was Kenyan? It seems like location and nationality could not have been a factor. The only factor was skin color.

Why weren't all Muslim contries like Indonesia banned if it was only about skin color?

Why do those who say "s**thole" contries is racist while at the same time describing those same countries as being horrible places full of criminals?

Was saying Ilhan Omar should go back where she came from based on skin color or because she came to the US from another country?

I mean did Trump ever specify skin color in these and other instances, or did others apply skin color?

Has there ever a time when Trump has ever said anything about skin color? The only instance I know of is the rumor of a supposed secret tape where he supposedly said the "N word".


Trump damn well knew Obama was born in America. He jumped on the birther bandwagon because he knew he could connect with racial hatred directed at Obama. And say, even if Obama had been born in Kenya, the fact that his mother was an American would have automatically made him an American as well, but you'll never hear that from Trump or any other birther.


In other words, Trump was "playing politics".
Oh Lordy!
Who would have thought a politician would stoop to playing politics. :mrgreen:


Plenty of politicians can get rough and dirty without causing perhaps irreparable harm to America by appealing to the ugliest instincts of part of the electorate. Playing up to the racism of your base has long term effects that Trump could care less about, and doesn't have the intellectual abilities to even be concerned about.


Most anything anti-obama can be called racist by those who have a tendency to call anything they can racist. Like Pepe says, most of it is politics.



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03 Sep 2019, 2:58 am

EzraS wrote:
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I am not certain how much is racist or how much has had racism applied to it.

Was Obama being born in Kenya because of his skin color or because his father was Kenyan? It seems like location and nationality could not have been a factor. The only factor was skin color.

Why weren't all Muslim contries like Indonesia banned if it was only about skin color?

Why do those who say "s**thole" contries is racist while at the same time describing those same countries as being horrible places full of criminals?

Was saying Ilhan Omar should go back where she came from based on skin color or because she came to the US from another country?

I mean did Trump ever specify skin color in these and other instances, or did others apply skin color?

Has there ever a time when Trump has ever said anything about skin color? The only instance I know of is the rumor of a supposed secret tape where he supposedly said the "N word".


Trump damn well knew Obama was born in America. He jumped on the birther bandwagon because he knew he could connect with racial hatred directed at Obama. And say, even if Obama had been born in Kenya, the fact that his mother was an American would have automatically made him an American as well, but you'll never hear that from Trump or any other birther.


In other words, Trump was "playing politics".
Oh Lordy!
Who would have thought a politician would stoop to playing politics. :mrgreen:


Plenty of politicians can get rough and dirty without causing perhaps irreparable harm to America by appealing to the ugliest instincts of part of the electorate. Playing up to the racism of your base has long term effects that Trump could care less about, and doesn't have the intellectual abilities to even be concerned about.


Most anything anti-obama can be called racist by those who have a tendency to call anything they can racist. Like Pepe says, most of it is politics.


No, disagreeing with his policies is clearly not racist. But questioning his nationality, and attacking his family with ugly, bigoted memes clearly is racist.


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03 Sep 2019, 3:29 am

Any normal person would have thought Trump's attacks on Obama smacked of racism or somebody who was seriously mentally unhinged.

Either way people who vote for him are (in my view) equally culpable (any wonder people who support trump are referred to as "deplorables").



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03 Sep 2019, 4:21 am

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Any normal person would have thought Trump's attacks on Obama smacked of racism or somebody who was seriously mentally unhinged.

Either way people who vote for him are (in my view) equally culpable (any wonder people who support trump are referred to as "deplorables").


No there is no wondering why liberals/ democrats so readily lable others. Basically it seems to be to create the notion that if you are not a liberal/democrat, there must be something wrong with you ie you're heartless, greedy, racist, phobic etc etc.



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03 Sep 2019, 5:51 am

Thank goodness Trump has flipped it around and has labeled Elijah Cummings, members of "The Squad", and the media as racists at various points this year. Now that Trump is doing it we can be sure the casual charge of being racist has lost much meaning.



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03 Sep 2019, 12:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
No, disagreeing with his policies is clearly not racist. But questioning his nationality, and attacking his family with ugly, bigoted memes clearly is racist.


Thankfully nothing bad has been said about Trump.
It's good to know the Democrats have more class. :lmao:
I hear Antifa regularly attends Sunday school, btw. :mrgreen:

I think it safe to say there are ratbags in both camps. ;)



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03 Sep 2019, 12:56 pm

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Any normal person would have thought Trump's attacks on Obama smacked of racism or somebody who was seriously mentally unhinged.

Either way people who vote for him are (in my view) equally culpable (any wonder people who support trump are referred to as "deplorables").


Oh my Lordy.
Your comment sounds very much like character assassination and mudslinging,
And guilt through association. 8O
But that is just my silliness.

I'm sure you simply meant to say your side has the moral authority and everyone else is evil. :mrgreen:



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03 Sep 2019, 1:13 pm

I'm not even going to comment on this thread's topic; the defensive language is too smug & self-assured now. Your failure is not about politics anymore, you have failed to recognize humanity in others.

Conservatives here have totally thrown away the concept of a civil discourse. You can qualify anything you ever want to believe about your conservative messiah without thinking about it yourselves because that's how Trump structured the public internet in this country. It is censored, wiretapped, obfuscated & monopolized. You can blame us until we're all dead & the American internet will be on your side.

Stop playing victim & talk about real issues. Jeez, yuck.


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03 Sep 2019, 1:16 pm

Pepe wrote:
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No, disagreeing with his policies is clearly not racist. But questioning his nationality, and attacking his family with ugly, bigoted memes clearly is racist.


Thankfully nothing bad has been said about Trump.
It's good to know the Democrats have more class. :lmao:
I hear Antifa regularly attends Sunday school, btw. :mrgreen:

I think it safe to say there are ratbags in both camps. ;)


Sure the Dems say bad things about Trump. That's because he is a liar, a buffoon, a racist, an adulterer, and at the very least has too close of an association with the hostile power of Russia.
I've never defended Anitfa's destructive riots. But unlike white nationalists they've never killed anyone. So why hasn't Trump sworn to declare racist groups as terrorist organizations?


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03 Sep 2019, 9:12 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, disagreeing with his policies is clearly not racist. But questioning his nationality, and attacking his family with ugly, bigoted memes clearly is racist.


Thankfully nothing bad has been said about Trump.
It's good to know the Democrats have more class. :lmao:
I hear Antifa regularly attends Sunday school, btw. :mrgreen:

I think it safe to say there are ratbags in both camps. ;)


Sure the Dems say bad things about Trump. That's because he is a liar, a buffoon, a racist, an adulterer, and at the very least has too close of an association with the hostile power of Russia.
I've never defended Anitfa's destructive riots. But unlike white nationalists they've never killed anyone. So why hasn't Trump sworn to declare racist groups as terrorist organizations?


So you are saying all Democrats are beyond reproach? :scratch:
So you suffer from Cyclopia also? 8O



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03 Sep 2019, 9:17 pm

Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
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No, disagreeing with his policies is clearly not racist. But questioning his nationality, and attacking his family with ugly, bigoted memes clearly is racist.


Thankfully nothing bad has been said about Trump.
It's good to know the Democrats have more class. :lmao:
I hear Antifa regularly attends Sunday school, btw. :mrgreen:

I think it safe to say there are ratbags in both camps. ;)


Sure the Dems say bad things about Trump. That's because he is a liar, a buffoon, a racist, an adulterer, and at the very least has too close of an association with the hostile power of Russia.
I've never defended Anitfa's destructive riots. But unlike white nationalists they've never killed anyone. So why hasn't Trump sworn to declare racist groups as terrorist organizations?


So you are saying all Democrats are beyond reproach? :scratch:
So you suffer from Cyclopia also? 8O


Where did I ever say that? But then again, most Democrats and Republicans in general all look like angels compared to Trump.


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03 Sep 2019, 9:55 pm

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I'm not even going to comment on this thread's topic; the defensive language is too smug & self-assured now. Your failure is not about politics anymore, you have failed to recognize humanity in others.

Conservatives here have totally thrown away the concept of a civil discourse. You can qualify anything you ever want to believe about your conservative messiah without thinking about it yourselves because that's how Trump structured the public internet in this country. It is censored, wiretapped, obfuscated & monopolized. You can blame us until we're all dead & the American internet will be on your side.

Stop playing victim & talk about real issues. Jeez, yuck.


Wow!
Talk about supercilious and smug self-assurance. <EEP!>
I think your comprehension skills need a tune-up.
In what universe am I playing a victim. 8O

I am assuming you are assuming I am a Trump fan-boy.
If so, you are wrong.
I am simply pointing out the obvious that there are two sides to a coin.

I have constantly made the irrefutable point that there are ragbags on either side of the political divide.
There are a zillion examples of Democratic Cyclopia and fact/truth sodomy.
And there are a gazillion instances of political group-think.
This happens on both sides but left-wingers are more "in tune" with their warm and fuzzies at the expense of rationalism.

This is self-evident.
Axiomatic.
And the *hard-core* left even openly revel in it.

Sanctimony,
Self-righteousness,
Virtue-signalling.
All proud badges worn by *the hard-core* lefty.

Am I saying *all* people who embrace left-wing politics are unreasonable emotionalists?
Rhetorical question, of course.

BTW, I abstained from voting altogether in the last erection because I was disgusted with both sides.
"A pox on both your (their) houses" as it were.
And I am absolutely appalled by the practices of big business.

While I have stronger affinities with conservative politics because I am a more logical and rational individual who finds evolutional emotionality a curiosity, I am not partisan in nature and will not compromise my intellectual integrity to service a party line.

I think a lot of people here and elsewhere have difficulty with this intellectual construct.
It doesn't change its veracity. :mrgreen:



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03 Sep 2019, 10:19 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, disagreeing with his policies is clearly not racist. But questioning his nationality, and attacking his family with ugly, bigoted memes clearly is racist.


Thankfully nothing bad has been said about Trump.
It's good to know the Democrats have more class. :lmao:
I hear Antifa regularly attends Sunday school, btw. :mrgreen:

I think it safe to say there are ratbags in both camps. ;)


Sure the Dems say bad things about Trump. That's because he is a liar, a buffoon, a racist, an adulterer, and at the very least has too close of an association with the hostile power of Russia.
I've never defended Anitfa's destructive riots. But unlike white nationalists they've never killed anyone. So why hasn't Trump sworn to declare racist groups as terrorist organizations?


So you are saying all Democrats are beyond reproach? :scratch:
So you suffer from Cyclopia also? 8O


Where did I ever say that? But then again, most Democrats and Republicans in general all look like angels compared to Trump.


But there *are* ratbags on both sides of the political divide, right?

Damn!
It's like talking to a politician.
You can never get a straight answer. :mrgreen:



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03 Sep 2019, 10:45 pm

I rest my case. tl;dr This isn't a comprehensible debate.


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03 Sep 2019, 10:49 pm

Whinging to a coder about his ability to comprehend you is boring. :cry:

You mistook me for someone with an identifiable political association.


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