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29 Oct 2019, 8:55 am

Is the large amount of candidates a case of "Never mind the quality feel the width" ?



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29 Oct 2019, 9:04 am

it's more a product of the fact that the election is one year away.

By the time of the primaries next year, the 20-or-so candidates probably will be pared down to 5 or so.



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29 Oct 2019, 9:13 am

^ Who do you think they will be ?



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29 Oct 2019, 9:15 am

I would say (amongst the Democrats) Elizabeth Warren, Kamela Harris, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and someone who is relatively moderate.



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29 Oct 2019, 9:18 am

I'd heard there'd been question marks about Biden's mental faculties .



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29 Oct 2019, 9:22 am

Biden has never been the most articulate fellow....

At this point, he's still seen as being a frontrunner. Why do you think Trump went through all he did in the Ukraine?



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29 Oct 2019, 12:02 pm

The DNC flooded the field with donkeys so it could get through to the second stage and they can fix it again with the super delegates. It doesn't matter who the voters want as the candidate as it isn't up to them. It wouldn't surprise me if they shoe in the monster Clinton again and have Michelle Obama as her vice and cry 'muh diversity' and you get the water walking Obama back in the White House. Policies will be irrelevant regardless. It will all be about 'orange man bad' which will backfire and Trump will be elected and liberals will be crying for another 4 years.


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29 Oct 2019, 7:20 pm

As great as Clinton is, it wouldn't be pragmatic for her to run again, and I don't think she's seriously considering it. No doubt she'd be a President who could make all Americans feel really proud of their country.



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29 Oct 2019, 8:12 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
As great as Clinton is, it wouldn't be pragmatic for her to run again, and I don't think she's seriously considering it. No doubt she'd be a President who could make all Americans feel really proud of their country.


How so? Don't you think she'd just go over to a business as usual kind of program? In the way Obama did? - I mean, she promised no changes, no new vision, nothing different in 2016... And for a lot of people, going on the same way as under Obama just wasn't an option.

That's why I commented "#me already" is such a good slogan for her - because that's basically her sentiment: vote for me because it's my turn now - but I don't see her doing anything but keep going as things are going,managing the daily activities...


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29 Oct 2019, 8:15 pm

Right now---I believe "business as usual" would have been preferable to the phenomenon known as Trump.......



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29 Oct 2019, 8:37 pm

There was no "business as usual" option kraftie. There are human forces at work that cannot by contained or repurposed by democratic politics anymore. Trump jumped on those forces and rode the wave, but he certainly didn't unleash them. I rarely see this articulated but it is obvious to me that Trump (and Brexit to an extent) acted like a kind of temporary steam valve for the reactionary and revolutionary forces that are stirring. Clinton wouldn't have been business as usual, she might accidentally have made things worse. Across the pond, had the EU vote not gone the way it did, we may well have seen a more intense version of the yellow vest movement in the UK. The pot is slowly coming to boil...


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30 Oct 2019, 1:02 am

Sickening that someone would call a woman who is close friends with child rapists "great". Someone who bullied and defamed her husband's rape victims. Someone who floated about reducing the sentence of a child rapist butcher. Someone who voted to kill hundreds of thousands of children in Iraq. I hope Alex is proud :roll:


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30 Oct 2019, 3:40 am

a saying which needs a modification to describe this situation- 3 strikes, and WE are out.



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30 Oct 2019, 4:41 am

I think she would have a better chance this time around, now that we’ve seen Trump in action.


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30 Oct 2019, 6:09 am

i frankly don't care who the dems run, i just want that person to be able to get more electoral votes than trumpy.



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30 Oct 2019, 6:31 am

She's not running, you guys.

This is basically an opinion piece from the National Review, an obviously conservative news outlet.

It's scaremongering and sh!t-disturbing - two of the things that the right-wing does best.


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