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14 Jan 2020, 6:02 pm

They still say "it's no excuse" and "you don't have it".

I had "tech" back then
I don't miss 10 minutes for a picture to load on the net or after getting a part of the picture and then the picture freezing




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14 Jan 2020, 6:21 pm

^ Lol, it looks so primitive now. That was nearly exactly the sound we used to have on our winmodem.

I miss the intuitiveness of computers back then. I don't miss the extremely slow download speeds at all.

Last year around Christmas time was 20 years since I first met an aspie with my mother online. We met him at Canary Wharf where he used to work. I'm still in touch with him and other aspies I met online then.

2001 was the first year I owned a laptop. :heart: I bought it from him. I LOVED it.


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14 Jan 2020, 6:27 pm

I didn't get Internet until 1996. And I really didn't get "full" Internet until Christmas, 1997. This was because I had a very primitive computer until Christmas, 1997.

People in the 90s were just as cynical as they are these days. What people are saying about the Boomers now were said about the generation before the Boomers in the 90s.



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14 Jan 2020, 10:43 pm

the 90s were the last time i was "cutting edge" about most things.



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14 Jan 2020, 11:47 pm

I was never cutting edge about anything.



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14 Jan 2020, 11:54 pm

^^^but you're the Wolfman! that's gotta count for some kinda cuttin' edge 8)



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15 Jan 2020, 3:01 am

Was a teenager in my 90's and it was my most favourite time. I was a huge music geek and loved reading magazines about it all and planning the next CD purchase (casette purchase at the start of the decade)

It was a simpler time and one in which I guess I could be more selfish in as I was just doing what I wanted when I wanted. Now I have responsibilities (boooooooo) :lol:



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15 Jan 2020, 6:17 am

90s, eh... I was born back then. I don't remember much, but from what I've heard, that time sucked for most people around me. Lots of companies went down, many people lost their jobs and homes... suicide rates were very high back then, too. Nope, say no to the return of the 90s. I know I do.



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15 Jan 2020, 7:24 am

Fireblossom wrote:
90s, eh... I was born back then. I don't remember much, but from what I've heard, that time sucked for most people around me. Lots of companies went down, many people lost their jobs and homes... suicide rates were very high back then, too. Nope, say no to the return of the 90s. I know I do.


You are from Finland. I moved from Russia to the US in 1994. Since when I say 90s I actually mean late 90s, I was in the US, and US didn't go through any economic crises back then.

As far as Russia is concerned, from what I learned later, it was horrible: people went for weeks without pay. In fact, that was part of how we moved to the US: my mom's job in Russia got closed down at the exact time she went to a conference at the US where she eventually got a job. So if it wasn't for the timing of that conference, maybe things wouldn't have been nearly as nice.

Still, however, my parents/grandparents must have been working super hard to make sure I didn't feel any hint of hunger at all. My mom moved to the US two years before I did (she moved on 92 and I moved in 94) So her parents (my grandparents) were raising me. So I remember my mom was insisting she send some food to my grandma and my grandma insisting she didn't need it. My grandma said "we are elderly we don't eat that much" and I then got upset since I thought she implied that health-wise I am elderly too so I was asking her do I eat less than most people since most people think it's not enough but to me it's enough. Well when I read about 90s on the internet I finally found out that it wasn't that at all -- by far. The situation was that people went for months without pay -- and I don't think I would be able to survive this no matter how little I eat. On the other hand I don't think I ate back than any less than I do now. So the real issue was that my grandparents did a really good job saving money and perhaps limiting what they eat to make sure I was well fed.

I also remember how when I first moved to the US I was sort of hoping to return to Russia since I felt out of place in the new country. But my parents seemed to think the US was better. So I was thinking to myself that they don't have emotions and don't realize what it feels like to be in your own home. But now I see that it wasn't that either. What it was is that in Russia they would have to figure out ways to get food despite all those shortages --
but I wouldn't feel it since they would do such a fantastic job figuring it out -- so basically I wasn't on the same page.



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15 Jan 2020, 7:36 am

The Nineties were labeled by MTV as the "Digital Decade". Prior to that we were still in the Thomas Edison era of analog physical media. Records, tapes, eight tracks, VHS, chemical film. After that (actually it took until the 20 tens) we went to streaming media.

The Nineties were the in between phase when we had DVDs, and CDs. So we were digital, but still physical, in media consumption.

Personally, now that I think about it, it was a pretty ok time for me. Met my first gf then. The "soundtrack" of our relationship was music from an earlier era: Fifties and Sixties rocknroll (hand dance music). So the movie "Dirty Dancing" ( made in the 90s, but built upon Fifties and early sixties rocknroll) kinda represents that era to me on a personal level. So I like that movie (even though its a chick flic that no male person can actually understand. Lol).

America had the two funniest presidents in my lifetime (with the possible exception of Nixon) back to back around the turn of the current century. Clinton in the Nineties, and W. Bush in the early 2000s. Funny for somewhat different reasons. But both were extremely easy to make fun of.

Then we had Obama, who was hard to make fun of due to his total lack of vices, and lack of boneheadedness, and lack of virtually any other indiosyncracies.

Now we have Trump who is also hard to satirize, but for the opposite reasons: because he is SO far out, and so unconventional in behavior, that he has taken reality beyond any satirical fantasy. "We live in surreal times" as Lewis Black said.



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15 Jan 2020, 8:44 am

I would call the 90s “the decade of the pager,” even though I never owned one. There were some people with cell phones—but most people who had them only used them to make and receive calls. I didn’t have a cell phone until 2009.

The Internet, to me, is a late-90s phenomenon. It was all dial-up. You couldn’t use the phone when you were on the Internet.

I guess I don’t have much nostalgia for the 90s because I wasn’t a kid then.

I was shaped by the 60s and, to a certain extent, the 70s.



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15 Jan 2020, 9:09 am

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Now we have Trump who is also hard to satirize.


Trump is like the most entertaining president EVER. Sometimes I wonder whether entertaining people is his whole purpose. It feels like he is glad he is being attacked by liberals since it adds to entertainment.

The whole "build the wall" thing I found especially hillarious. It almost feels like he is glad there are all those drug dealers since it gives him a perfect excuse to "build the wall".

Also look at this: the wall is referred to as "Trump's wall". But was the war in Iraq ever referred to as "Bush's war"? No. In case of Bush it wasn't clear whether it was fight on terrorism or an excuse to get an oil. But with Trump it's neither of the two. With Trump it's about promoting Trump's emblem, which happens to be the wall. I think this is SOOOO funny.

And here is something else I saw. So I don't follow the surveys so what I am going to say is outdated. But in any case, first few months after his elections there were surveys across other countries whether they like America better or worse after Trump's election. The only two countries that liked America better were Russia and Israel. Among the countries that hated Trump the most were the Muslim ones, due to his immigration ban. But Muslins were not the top Trump haters. Yes, they were very close to the top, but not at the very top due to that one country that beat them. Can you guess what that country was? You are right: Mexico. Nothing could beat Trump's wall! I think it's epic.



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15 Jan 2020, 9:40 am

Trust me:

Trump is not "entertaining" to people who want to visit the United States, yet get bombarded with questions from customs officials.

We are looking like the dicks of the world right now.

Back in the 1990s, at least the US had SOME respectability.



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15 Jan 2020, 11:03 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
They still say "it's no excuse" and "you don't have it".


Not to me.

I guess the people to whom they say "you don't have it" today are the ones who wouldn't have been diagnosed on the first place in the 90s. And the ones that heard "you don't have it" in the 90s are the ones who are too severe to hear "you don't have it" today.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I had "tech" back then


Not to the extend we have it today. A little bit of a good thing is good, too much of a good thing is too much.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I don't miss 10 minutes for a picture to load on the net or after getting a part of the picture and then the picture freezing


It wouldn't have mattered if you weren't addicted to the picture things in some ways. Back in the 80-s there was no such thing as downloading pictures to begin with, and everyone were doing just fine. So why did it suddenly become a problem in the 90-s?

I guess I was lucky enough that in the 90-s I didn't have a concept of downloading pictures, thats why I didn't care. The only way I got upset about the picture thing was in the 2000-s when I was on dating sites and the girls rejected me for not having a picture which I didn't have simply because I haven't learned how to do it. I was really pissed at them for being so judgemental precisely because I couldn't get what was it about the picure that mattered that much anyway.

And this is yet another way in which 90s are better. Back in the 90s they wouldn't have judged me for not having a picture since nobody else had one either.

With music, same thing. I simply didn't listen to high tech music, period. I only got headphones once -- it was 2014 and I got them as a price for winning the running competition. I tried to use them, couldn't exactly figure out how. Eventually they broke, which was totally fine with me. I did use a different kinds of headphones when I tried to listen the music on the internet in the library and they happened to have them. But once again I only did it few times in my life. I listen to the music on youtube though -- and I do it without the head phones -- but I don't think its healthy: its part of my internet addiction. I wish internet (together with youtube and email and all the rest of it) were to be shut down one day. Then my life would return to the healthy one.



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15 Jan 2020, 11:13 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Trust me:

Trump is not "entertaining" to people who want to visit the United States, yet get bombarded with questions from customs officials.

We are looking like the dicks of the world right now.

Back in the 1990s, at least the US had SOME respectability.


That is funny too in some weird way. Those officials do all this hard work asking all those questions, and those immigrants are being so stressed about all of this -- and none of them realizes that they are just part of the big game intended to entertain the people that watch the news.



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15 Jan 2020, 6:12 pm

I love old computer sounds. The dialup sound was awesome, and so was the sound of my old Compaq Armada 1120 booting up. :heart:


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