20 Nov 2020, 12:34 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
I feel like Nazi and Hitler comparisons are cop out comparisons, because when people use them, they think what's the lowest level I can compare a person too... Hiter! And that's why it's often used, because it's a cop out.
but sometimes the metaphors are apt.
I thought Himmler was eviler than Hitler.
Maybe in the sense that Darth Vader Was more evil than Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine. But in both cases, the subordinate was serving the master.
Quote:
Given overall responsibility for the security of the Nazi empire, Himmler was the key and senior Nazi official responsible for conceiving and overseeing implementation of the "Final Solution," the Nazi plan to murder the Jews of Europe.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ch-himmler
20 Nov 2020, 12:36 am
cberg wrote:
Simply not being nazis is a pathetically low bar to clear however. That in no way stops people from sticking their heads in the sand as if moral failings on the part of authoritarians aren't a problem.
Republicans have been supporting nazis. This is a fact.
Republicans have been supporting nazis. This is a fact.
Not most Republicans. I'd bet your left testicle on that.
20 Nov 2020, 12:38 am
Well most Republicans voted for the guy who did, ergo did they somehow not support it?
It's a pretty weak stance, not knowing what you're voting for.
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20 Nov 2020, 12:40 am
I'm not dancing around this point to spare anyone's feelings, voting nazi is voting nazi whether or not you're a willing participant. Complacency is complacency. Hate speech is hate speech.
Everyone else in this thread but blabbs is complicit in a system that kills people for disagreeing.
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20 Nov 2020, 12:44 am
20 Nov 2020, 12:47 am
Well sure, if you ignore the trend of politically motivated vehicular homicides. 
Trump is capitalizing on people killing each other in the streets & feeding stroking the ego of one partisan side.
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Last edited by cberg on 20 Nov 2020, 12:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
20 Nov 2020, 12:49 am
The nazis changed the German flag too.
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20 Nov 2020, 12:50 am
20 Nov 2020, 12:55 am
cberg wrote:
Well most Republicans voted for the guy who did, ergo did they somehow not support it?
It's a pretty weak stance, not knowing what you're voting for.
It's a pretty weak stance, not knowing what you're voting for.
We are going around in circles.
Most people, including a lot of Trump supporters, think he is a narcissistic dickhead.
That doesn't change the fact that he improved working conditions and the economy, in general, before the coronavirus hit.
His appalling management of the virus did him in, to a large extent.
Once again, I am not voting for anything.
I am making objective observations, especially when some aspects of American politics is over-looked.
I.E. I don't think in binary terms.
20 Nov 2020, 12:57 am
I think he crossed that line & went straight for the white supremacist vote. It's not as if those people aren't to be faulted for falling in line behind skinheads.
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-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
20 Nov 2020, 12:59 am
cberg wrote:
The nazis changed the German flag too.
Disconnected logic.
Your comment has no validity.
Eventually, Australia will change it's flag also, possibly with the China*s* star in it.
20 Nov 2020, 1:01 am
Our country is not owned by our police however. Reserving respect for law "enforcement" regardless of how they conduct themselves is a fool's errand.
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-Georges Lemaitre
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20 Nov 2020, 1:04 am
Pepe wrote:
Calling Trump a Hitler is one thing, but calling all Republican supporters Nazis is another.
I had a soft warning when I said that supporting Trump was no different than liking Hitler still. I got informed it was not the time to do that now and was asked to not make that comparison again on here.
20 Nov 2020, 1:06 am
Good for you.
I got a soft warning after reporting a mod when he told us off for defending the way we voted.
We voted against neonazis. Plain & simple. He didn't understand why we might have any feelings about that.
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-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
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20 Nov 2020, 1:25 am
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
The nazis changed the German flag too.
Disconnected logic.
Your comment has no validity.
Eventually, Australia will change it's flag also, possibly with the China*s* star in it.
False equivalency.
This argument has no validity.
There is a difference between a government lawfully changing its own national flag via proper and lawful channels in such a way that continues to or is intended to represent all members of that nation, under the original intent of that flag - and a sub group unlawfully or arbitrarily changing a national flag that they have no legal right to change, in such a way that it represents one group moreso than others, despite being intended as a representation of all members of that nation.
Also
4 U.S. Code § 8.Respect for flag
(g)The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
(i)The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.
Those Blue Line flags break both rules, and you'd think police, as law enforcers, would know better, or at least want to set an example. You're allowed to have you're own flag, but you're not allowed to subvert the national flag to your specific cause. Other people break those laws too, but, they're not *Law Enforcement*.
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20 Nov 2020, 1:28 am
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
I feel like Nazi and Hitler comparisons are cop out comparisons, because when people use them, they think what's the lowest level I can compare a person too... Hiter! And that's why it's often used, because it's a cop out.
but sometimes the metaphors are apt.
I thought Himmler was eviler than Hitler.
Maybe in the sense that Darth Vader Was more evil than Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine. But in both cases, the subordinate was serving the master.
Quote:
Given overall responsibility for the security of the Nazi empire, Himmler was the key and senior Nazi official responsible for conceiving and overseeing implementation of the "Final Solution," the Nazi plan to murder the Jews of Europe.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ch-himmler
Regardless, Himmler was still answering to Hitler. Hitler was still answerable.
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